Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of Palmyra Atoll (local).svg

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File:Flag of Palmyra Atoll (local).svg

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All three of these were nominated for deletion back in 2008 on the grounds that they aren't "real" flags, and were kept because that's not much of an argument. I have a much stronger argument for deleting them: they're all tagged as being public domain, even though it's very unlikely that they are. According to this page, all three flags were designed by a Harry Wheeler and flown in 2001 at the 60th anniversary commemoration of the attack on Pearl Harbor. The designer of the flags thus presumably owns the copyright to them, yet the Navassa and Palmyra flags are tagged {{PD-trivial}}, and the Johnston flag is tagged {{PD-self}}. It seems much more likely that all three are copyright violations and should be deleted on those grounds. —Mahāgaja · talk 19:21, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete. The Palmyra Atoll flag is potentially below the threshold of originality; regardless, consensus is generally that flags which are "proposed" or "unofficial", like these, are considered fantasy content and out of scope by default. Unofficial flags with substantial usage or notable proposals (like the submissions to the w:2020 Mississippi flag referendum) are in scope, but these appear to be neither; they're simply a set of made-up flags that were flown once. Omphalographer (talk) 01:08, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Are the Kingman Reef Flag and the Midway Atoll Flag legitimate “Unofficial flags”? I noticed you haven’t filed them for deletion here and I just want to be sure. Aimmella12 (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete File:Flag of Navassa Island (local).svg. No evidence it has been released to public domain, and it is out of scope as a fantasy design with no recognition. Reywas92 (talk) 02:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep File:Flag of Navassa Island (local).svg; that's not even how Wikis work. We allow unofficial flags and even File:Flag of Navassa Island (local).svg here too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmNotABananaaa (talk • contribs) 22:35, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment With respect to scope, these flags are broadly COM:INUSE (It should be stressed that Commons does not overrule other projects about what is in scope. If an image is in use on another project (aside from use on talk pages or user pages), that is enough for it to be within scope. ), so we can't delete them on a scope-alone basis. The only reason for deletion would need to be copyright related. As such:
 Keep File:Flag of Palmyra Atoll (local).svg, which is easily under COM:TOO USA; and
 Delete File:Flag of Navassa Island (local).svg and File:Flag of Johnston Atoll (local).svg, both of which may well be complex enough to warrant copyright protection.
I think this is the most reasonable thing in light of COM:PRP, which urges us to delete files when significant doubt may exist as to their freedom. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Like [[1]], this has been deleted on Wikimedia Commons in 2013 because it is copyrighted. These two flags, as far as I can tell, will be deleted on Wikimedia Commons, but transferred to English Wikipedia like the file [[2]]. 2601:47:4081:50C0:B362:8078:6FB4:DAF8 21:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: the Palmyra Atoll one and deleted the other two. —holly {chat} 00:29, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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