Commons:Deletion requests/File:Feliciano Jocson.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Copyright violation, no indication of a free license on the source site. It might be old enough, but original author, source, and date must be added. P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:50, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- @P199, |here is the website where I got it from, it is a government owned website according to their |about page. Furthermore, here is the gov.ph website (which only the Philippine government can register on) about |CulturEd Philippines which is the one that owns the website. I think it qualifies as public domain since it is owned by the Philippine government and is old enough to be considered as such. PyroFloe (talk) 23:05, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
- The source website clearly says: "© NCCA-PCEP 2017. All Rights Reserved". And PCEP got the image from somewhere else, but there it says nothing about the original author, source, date. Therefore it is impossible to say if it is indeed PD. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 00:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- The official Twitter account of the NHCP or the National Historical Commission of the Philippines, another government owned agency, cites the photo as from the Philippine Cultural Education Program (PCEP) [1]. Furthermore, according to the Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines [2], No copyright shall subsist to any work by the Philippine government, it also states that Anonymous and pseudonym works - For purposes of this act, the publisher shall be deemed to represent the author, and the publisher in question is the PCEP, and thus part of the public domain. PyroFloe (talk) 04:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- @PyroFloe and P199: PCEP only obtained the image from somewhere else. Note that they only own it "physically" but doesn't hold its copyright. Copyright ≠ physical possession. See also COM:CRT/Philippines#Government works (the last 2 paragraphs of that section). See also my newly-launched DRs: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Old Jesus dela Pena.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Old Jesus dela Pena 2.jpg - bogus uses of PD-PhilippinesGov. For the poll, without tangible information on the original authorship and date of the photo, I'm leaning to
Weak delete. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- @PyroFloe and P199: PCEP only obtained the image from somewhere else. Note that they only own it "physically" but doesn't hold its copyright. Copyright ≠ physical possession. See also COM:CRT/Philippines#Government works (the last 2 paragraphs of that section). See also my newly-launched DRs: Commons:Deletion requests/File:Old Jesus dela Pena.jpg and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Old Jesus dela Pena 2.jpg - bogus uses of PD-PhilippinesGov. For the poll, without tangible information on the original authorship and date of the photo, I'm leaning to
- The official Twitter account of the NHCP or the National Historical Commission of the Philippines, another government owned agency, cites the photo as from the Philippine Cultural Education Program (PCEP) [1]. Furthermore, according to the Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines [2], No copyright shall subsist to any work by the Philippine government, it also states that Anonymous and pseudonym works - For purposes of this act, the publisher shall be deemed to represent the author, and the publisher in question is the PCEP, and thus part of the public domain. PyroFloe (talk) 04:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- The source website clearly says: "© NCCA-PCEP 2017. All Rights Reserved". And PCEP got the image from somewhere else, but there it says nothing about the original author, source, date. Therefore it is impossible to say if it is indeed PD. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 00:20, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
- @JWilz12345: , if this ever gets deleted for some reason, can you please transfer it to Wikipedia so that the article of the Flag of the Philippines is complete in terms of detail. Thanks and mabuhay to us all. PyroFloe (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- @PyroFloe: hello. I doubt that it would comply with w:Wikipedia:Non-free content, unless Feliciano Jocson has his own enwiki article. Also, the exact source may need to be specified. Anyway, I will try to upload it on enwiki under fair use status, but its "survival on enwiki" cannot be assured. Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 11:59, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- @JWilz12345: , if this ever gets deleted for some reason, can you please transfer it to Wikipedia so that the article of the Flag of the Philippines is complete in terms of detail. Thanks and mabuhay to us all. PyroFloe (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Info @PyroFloe: now uploaded locally under fair use as w:File:Feliciano jocson.jpg. But there's no guarantee of its survival on enwiki. You may want to strengthen the fair use rationale of the file by adding additional reason on why it complies with w:Wikipedia:Non-free content guidelines on images. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Okay thank you, I will update it the file soon. PyroFloe (talk) 15:03, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Kept: This image is probably a drawing made during the life of the subject. He died according to this website in 1898. According to Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Philippines the copyright lasts during the life of the author + 50 years. As this image is about 123 years old we can safely assume that it is in PD by now. --Elly (talk) 21:02, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
