Commons:Deletion requests/File:Estación Vivaceta.png

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File:Estación Vivaceta.png

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This is way above the threshold of originality. Tbhotch™ 01:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

After seeing Category:Symbols of Santiago Metro stations and Category:Old symbols of Santiago Metro stations, I'm also nominating:

It's clear they ran out of ideas with File:Estación Departamental.png, File:Estación Lo Vial.svg or File:Estación Salvador.svg, but the files above are not simple lines or shapes, they are complex figures. This one is Michael killing a dragon/demon(?), which does not constitute a basic shape. Per COM:TOO Chile, the TOO might not be as relaxed as in other places. Tbhotch™ 01:57, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 Keep Not all symbols are a copy of the original one (which could be copyrighted). In fact, there are not many high-quality images of the files so most of them are interpretations of those symbols based on photos, personal memory and some documents. As you can see in the PDF file, the poster with some of the original logos has a lot of less quality so we can only know, for example, that Baquedano has a standing soldier with a bayonette. Is it the same than File:Estación Baquedano 1997.svg? No. It's an icon based on that idea and some similarity but not the same. In fact now that you are mentioning San Miguel, the image for example has some spikes in the dragon along the back and tail, which are not in the original symbol, while the angel in the original poster of Metro has his arm raised (not in the logo uploaded here). --B1mbo (talk) 14:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@B1mbo: So they are Commons:Derivative works: "In either case, unless the underlying work is in the public domain or there is evidence that the underlying work has been freely licensed for reuse (for example, under an appropriate Creative Commons license), the original creator of the work must explicitly authorize the copy/ derivative work before it can be uploaded to Commons." Tbhotch™ 15:24, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But most of the logos are based, in fact, on simple images under PD: a trident next to two fishes on a black square clearly are below the threshold of originality, so are the drawing of a locomotive, the silhouette of a cannon or a grape. If the images were the exact copies it might be copyright infringement but not interpretations of those simple shapes. --B1mbo (talk)
You forgot that in Chile this is copyrighted. A piece of paper with handwritten text that cannot be copyrighted in many countries. If that is copyrightable, the elements here are as well. And you are skipping the modern logos like File:Estación Conchalí.png, which contains a lot of elements to say it is a simple shape. Compare that with Tokyo 2020 and you see what I mean. Tbhotch™ 07:13, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The case you are mentioning is not about copyright, is a dispute about alleged trademark. In fact, the lawsuit is regarding a radio campaign, not about the particular reproduction of the piece of paper, and the State Defense Council even used the threshold of originality argument in the litigation in the lawsuit (which has not been settled according to the website of the Courts under rol C-6405-2018 [1]).
About the particular cases, I think that those symbols created lately (Line 3 and 6, those in Category:Symbols of Santiago Metro stations but not in Category:Old symbols of Santiago Metro stations) are under copyright, most of them with the exception of File:Estación Plaza de Armas.svg and File:Estación Irarrázaval 2018.svg. In the case of the older symbols, their design are simple and fall below the ToO. --B1mbo (talk) 23:09, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination, it has not been shown these images are in PD or published with a free license. --Ellywa (talk) 19:21, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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