Commons:Deletion requests/File:Currentschooluniformstylesintokyo-jan292015.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
As per COM:CSCR#Japan, in Japan, consent is required for publishing photographs of identifiable persons even in public places. While the uploader does appear to have made an effort to blur out the person's face slightly, it is still clearly identifiable, and the fact that the subject is a minor and the photograph appears to have been taken from afar with a telephoto lens without the person's knowledge also raises privacy concerns. DAJF (talk) 10:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- I don't like the assumptions you made about me. I did not use a telephoto lens, it's just cropped from another picture I took because after reviewing the other photo I saw this person in uniform and I thought it would be useful as uniforms have changed a lot over the years, having a 2015 snapshot would be useful. I did more than "slightly" blur the face, it's quite blurred AND before blurring I smudged the face with GIMP to make sure even if someone applied photoshop sharpening skills or whatever to it they could not reconstruct the face of the person in question. I have respected COM:CSCR#Japan and there is no reason to delete this. Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 12:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
- I'd like to say, I go out of my way to respect COM:CSCR#Japan, and although I am sure I have failed some times or whatever (only human) I think it is quite ironic that DAJF is fighting for the deletion of this when said user severely violates the same rule regularly. I am not fighting for the deletion of users content because they are quite good shots--- keep them, good in my opinion and a little bit of face never hurt anyone (it's just insanely hypocritical) but for example File:Tsuruse_Station_east_entrance_20150409.JPG clearly shows the faces of two minors (one boy is in school uniform so a minor without a doubt) and there was no attempt at all to blur the faces or anything. I don't know why you are going around trying to delete my images DAJF, but this needs to be closed and we need to end your vendetta against me. Call a peace summit? Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 08:05, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
Comment My concern regarding this particular image is that the person is the sole subject of the photo and clearly recognisable, which is why I feel it falls foul of COM:CSCR#Japan. That's all. Certainly no vendetta involved, as I concentrate on problems with individual images rather than worrying about who uploaded them, and this one deletion nomination shouldn't be taken personally or detract from the credit you deserve for all the other useful photos of Japanese stations etc you have uploaded to Commons. I'm not aware of any photos I have uploaded that focus entirely on persons taken without their consent, but if any appear problematic, they should also be nominated for discussion/deletion. --DAJF (talk) 09:16, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Glad to hear it isn't a vendetta (that would suck) but if you read COM:CSCR#Japan you would know that technically you aren't suppose to have identifiable people in your in public shots, regardless if they are the only person (and in my photo there is a guy in the back too so not only person anyway) or not. In your photo, it clearly shows two faces at a small station, it would be quite easy to find out who those two people were from that photo if we were being anal about rules. In fact, tons of your other shots have clearly identifiable people. The one I linked is just the tip of your iceberg of hypocrisy. For example, File:Shinjuku-sanchome_Fukutoshin_Line_platforms_20131116.JPG the lady on the left is looking right at your lens and has a very clearly defined face. It goes on and on. I strongly suggest you retract this deletion request of yours as it is nonsense, and I am clearly putting more effort into following the rules than you are. Gosh. Salutations, Nesnad (talk) 10:25, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - Can an admin come by and close this with a
Keep already? DAJF's deletion request is baseless. The COM:CSCR#Japan page itself says that the page "illustrates standards or behaviors which most editors agree with in principle and generally follow." Notice the keywords "in principle" and "generally follow". They are guidelines, not laws of Commons. To respect Japanese Wikipedia it is considered good manners to blur out faces of private people in public. But it is not required, as can be seen in the same category that this image exists in. Click it. There are billions of Japanese school students without blurred faces in that category and in other parts of Wikimedia Commons. It is not a requirement on Wikimedia to blur the faces of private people in Japan, it is just good manners. And I did blur the face in this case. So hurry up and set this as keep and let's move on. I am kind of annoyed here. Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 10:57, 2 June 2015 (UTC) ADDENDUM: DAFJ said on her/his talk page that "blurring the image more" would ensure the file would be kept. If that is the only option, of course I would blur more so I don't know why this is up for deletion--- if that's what I had to do I would do it. I could easily blur it more. But more I am trying to make the point that trying to delete this image in the first place is baseless, and I wish I could hear from an admin on that. Cheers, Nesnad (talk) 17:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
Kept, I think, that the image is enough blurred. Taivo (talk) 09:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
