Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cryptic Room Mural.jpg
Derivative work of mural in the United States, and mural will not be out of copyright until 2052. SchuminWeb (Talk) 22:50, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
Delete per nom, derivative work of copyrighted painting. Courcelles (talk) 07:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Question: This is a 1950s painting by an American, in fixed form and presented publicly in the U.S. prior to 1964, right? If COM:COPYRIGHT#United States is accurate, that would mean that this painting is in the public domain unless it has a copyright notice and its copyright was renewed. Or am I missing something about what constitutes "publication" for a mural? --Closeapple (talk) 00:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Neutral Mural is almost certainly out of copyright right now; it needed a copyright notice and renewal. But the photograph is too tightly cropped to see if there's a copyright notice, and manually searching the copyright renewals is almost impossible.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:45, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Kept: Renewal of 1950s work would be after 1978, which is an easy search. It was not renewed. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 13:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
This mural may infringe on the mural artist's copyright. Unless we can determine its copyright status, we must delete it. The artist dies in 1982. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 22:19, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not necessarily true. If the artist still holds the copyright, then death-plus rules govern. But if this was a work-for-hire, then the George Washington National Masonic Memorial Association may hold the copyright. Then it becomes an issue if the GWNMMA renewed the copyright at the appropriate time, or if they registered under 1978 "automatic plus-95 years" rule. - Tim1965 (talk) 22:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- You closed this several months ago with a keep; what's changed? Why are you reopening this DR?--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed, I was a little bit surprised to see that, too. I was also surprised to see the keep close before, however. At this point, as the nominator for the first discussion and the person who took the photo, I think I'm thoroughly lost on where this process is heading. Thus I'm abstaining. SchuminWeb (Talk) 02:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Withdrawn by nom. My apologies to all of you for wasting your time. As you will see in the log, I have nominated a number of murals for deletion. I thought I was careful to check for prior "kept" actions (which are shown on the talk page), but clearly I missed this one.
- Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 11:56, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
