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File:Casa Andrea Cristoforo - historisches Foto.png

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"family archive" is not the same as "own work" Ellin Beltz (talk) 20:08, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The picture was taken by my grandfather who died in 1976 and given to me from my mother. I inherited the image rights. Sciencia58 (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Image rights are inherited from testators to their heirs. It is not my fault, that I can only click on "own work" or "not my own work", and if I click on "not my own work" this automatically implies that I would not be the rightholder, which is wrong. This mistake should be fixed by Wikimedia commons. Wikimedia commons must offer another option the user can select an click on. Sciencia58 (talk) 06:57, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment Please communicate via COM:OTRS to fix this. And actually "should be fixed," it already is if you read the instructions. Ellin Beltz (talk) 15:44, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot read all this. My eyes already hurt, because I worked all day to renew the images. Please give me the link to the address, I have to write to. Sciencia58 (talk) 17:40, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment COM:OTRS Ellin Beltz (talk) 18:11, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Inheritance of image-rights is something you should know. There should be an option provided to click on "inheritance of image-rights" on the upload page. It is not my fault, that this option is missing on the upload page. If I write my own name in the line "author", it would seem inplausible, because I wasn't born at the time, when my Grandfather took the photo. My mother worked in the Casa Andrea Cristoforo before she got married. Her parents visited her and her father took photos. But in this case my Grandfather who took the photo, being the author, is NOT the copyrightholder any more. And he does NOT need to be dead for at least 70 years, because the image-rights are being inherited to me as descendant. [1]] This is nothing I have to discuss with permissions commons. It is something that You have to change - to complete with an additional option - on your upload page. Sciencia58 (talk) 12:04, 19 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I am the copyright-holder but I am not the author. In the options you provide during the upload, author and copyrightholder are presumed to always be identical, which is not always the case. I know another person, a professor from a University, who wanted a photo of himself to be uploaded in the article about him. The photo was taken by his wife, who had died of cancer afterwards. Wikimedia doubted him being the copyrightholder, because he was not the photographer. His wife couldn't send a licence, because she was dead. So the Professor had to write to wikimedia permissions and explain his private situation to them. It is unreasonable and demeaning, if someone who inherited an imageright, must declare his private situation in detail. This is a massive violation of privacy, if everyone has to tell his own private biografy via internet to an anonymous organisation, when he wants to provide a photo of which he inherited the imagerights, because wikimedia ignores this possibility, acts like this was a very rare thing. That is not rare at all! Maybe you haven't become aware of this, because you perfer to scare away decent people and suppress their generous cooperation. Not the people are wrong but in your rules some very important legal issues are just missing. The world doesn't consist of America alone. If you are an international encyclopedia, you have to provide pages in the mother language of the person who wants to use it, to avoid mistakes due to language problems and missunderstandings. Sciencia58 (talk) 11:52, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
If I click on "not my own work" on the upload page, the possibility that I am still the copyright-holder, gets automatically exculded. In the following options the copyright-holder is always supposed to be someone else and I am asked to choose, which licence this allegedly "other person" has given to the image. It is impossible to continue from there on, because the image has no licence from anyone yet. I myself am the person who has the intention to give it a licence. There is no other person, who gave it a licence before. So I can't continue after clicking on "not my own work". If I click on "own work" I can continue and give it the licence I want to choose and I can write who the photographer was. And then comes someone from the "control-tower" and starts critizising me for something that is caused by a severe deficiency in the upload-system and not by me. Sciencia58 (talk) 20:10, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination - requires evidence that the uploader is the copyright holder via OTRS. .     Jim . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 11:29, 27 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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