Commons:Deletion requests/File:Cara-de-costas.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
This file was initially tagged by Ajpvalente as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: Out of scope. But in my opinion the use of glasses is in scope. Taivo (talk) 14:52, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Keep, per Taivo. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:09, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Also note that, within Category:Train interiors of Portuguese train type 3500, this is the biggest photo, and that it uniquely shows one of the several upholstery patterns. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 03:29, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Comment: Closing admin, please count the nomination as a keep vote. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:09, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: Ajpvalente, please note that being out of scope is not a valid reason for a request of speedy deletion. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 00:49, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Delete The problem is that the photograph is so ridiculous that it cannot be used in the corresponding article, thus making it useless. If I want to place an image of the interior in the article, I will probably use this one, or this one, which may be of inferior quality, but are much more respectable and would not distract from the article content. As for the wrong deletion request, I am sorry about it, as I am not very familiar with the process. Thank you for the remark, and to Taivo for fixing this. Best regards, -- Ajpvalente (talk) 07:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- And what is the corresponding article? One about interiors of the 3500? Why? Why not an article about humor photography, or about sunglass usage, or about crew cuts? Please understand this is the Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free media for the dissimination of free knowledge, not Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free media about trains. There’s no excuse for this confusion, as the photo was categorized from the very beginning, upon upload, as relevant not only for train interiors but for several other categories. This is as absurd as requesting the deletion of these two rail-related photos because we have better images of the logo and items depicted on their liveries. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 19:47, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Once again, it is not about quality. It is simply because this photograph is ridiculous. And about the other uses... is Wikimedia Commons supposed to be a fashion magazine? No, Wikimedia Commons is a serious project to host educational purposes. This kind of humorous content (I honestly find no humor on it, but is is not hard to understand why others may find it funny) does not belong in Wikimedia Commons. I think this is not an educational file. Its main use (to show the interior of a railcar) is clearly negated due to its comical nature, and I do not believe its other uses to be particularly relevant. But I understand your point of view - to me, this image is simply not useful, and that is why I have placed it under deletion, but I can see why others may think otherwise. Best regards -- Ajpvalente (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Mas que grande, tão, tão grande desapontamento. Por esta é que não esperava, sinceramente. Com companhia desta, mais vale ir arribar a outras paragens… -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- You have uploaded other, much more important images. For example, this photograph is very important, not only because it is the only one of an important railway station, but also because it shows the station in a recent past, before the late remodelation that completely changed its layout. This one is also very important. Out of the railway theme, I can give this image as an example of a photograph that is not very important, due to the fact that there are many more and better images about the same subject, mas this one can be perfectly used in an article, because it is not ridiculous or trying to be humorous - it is a simple photograph of two people in a boat. Best regards, -- Ajpvalente (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- My disappointment is not about you nominating something I uploaded — that would be a case of Commons cronyism I deeply deplore. My disappointment is about someone who should know better not only not being able to understand that sunglass use and humour can be topics of educational media and subjects of enciclopedic treatment, but also trying to force that view by demanding deletion of such media items.
- Ask 100 people on the street what’s more ridiculous and non-serious: That an encyclopedic media repository hosts three photos of people with sunglasses on their napes or 16 images of the same individual locomotive? For most people, trainspotting is (wrongly, I agree) synonym with uselessness and dettachment from reality — so let us, trainspotters, at least us, open our minds and allow things we don’t enjoy to merely exist.
- -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:49, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
- Well, it is just the way I am - not a very funny person. I know I am supposed to be impartial in this project, but it is unavoidable that some of my personality reflects itself in my edits. But note that the problem here is not because of its humor nature. I am planning to upload some caricatures of Rafael Bordalo Pinheiro related to Linha do Oeste and Ramal de Cáceres, and if I find any others in public domain that relate in any way with our railways, I will try to bring them here. The image that I nominated for deletion is almost insignificant in its humor, yet that small part of humor ruins for me the whole picture. But you are correct, I am trying to impose myself, and that is something I have no right for. I withdraw this deletion request, and for me the image can remain in Commons. But I will not use it on the 3500 article, because I still belive it to be inappropriate. -- Ajpvalente (talk) 08:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ajpvalente,
- you may use
{{withdraw}}; - nor I nor anyone else ever dreamed of using this photo in an article about a train.
- you may use
- -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 01:17, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
I withdraw my nomination - Thank you very much. -- Ajpvalente (talk) 06:58, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
- Ajpvalente,
- Well, it is just the way I am - not a very funny person. I know I am supposed to be impartial in this project, but it is unavoidable that some of my personality reflects itself in my edits. But note that the problem here is not because of its humor nature. I am planning to upload some caricatures of Rafael Bordalo Pinheiro related to Linha do Oeste and Ramal de Cáceres, and if I find any others in public domain that relate in any way with our railways, I will try to bring them here. The image that I nominated for deletion is almost insignificant in its humor, yet that small part of humor ruins for me the whole picture. But you are correct, I am trying to impose myself, and that is something I have no right for. I withdraw this deletion request, and for me the image can remain in Commons. But I will not use it on the 3500 article, because I still belive it to be inappropriate. -- Ajpvalente (talk) 08:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
- You have uploaded other, much more important images. For example, this photograph is very important, not only because it is the only one of an important railway station, but also because it shows the station in a recent past, before the late remodelation that completely changed its layout. This one is also very important. Out of the railway theme, I can give this image as an example of a photograph that is not very important, due to the fact that there are many more and better images about the same subject, mas this one can be perfectly used in an article, because it is not ridiculous or trying to be humorous - it is a simple photograph of two people in a boat. Best regards, -- Ajpvalente (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Mas que grande, tão, tão grande desapontamento. Por esta é que não esperava, sinceramente. Com companhia desta, mais vale ir arribar a outras paragens… -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 21:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Once again, it is not about quality. It is simply because this photograph is ridiculous. And about the other uses... is Wikimedia Commons supposed to be a fashion magazine? No, Wikimedia Commons is a serious project to host educational purposes. This kind of humorous content (I honestly find no humor on it, but is is not hard to understand why others may find it funny) does not belong in Wikimedia Commons. I think this is not an educational file. Its main use (to show the interior of a railcar) is clearly negated due to its comical nature, and I do not believe its other uses to be particularly relevant. But I understand your point of view - to me, this image is simply not useful, and that is why I have placed it under deletion, but I can see why others may think otherwise. Best regards -- Ajpvalente (talk) 21:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- And what is the corresponding article? One about interiors of the 3500? Why? Why not an article about humor photography, or about sunglass usage, or about crew cuts? Please understand this is the Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free media for the dissimination of free knowledge, not Wikimedia Commons, a repository of free media about trains. There’s no excuse for this confusion, as the photo was categorized from the very beginning, upon upload, as relevant not only for train interiors but for several other categories. This is as absurd as requesting the deletion of these two rail-related photos because we have better images of the logo and items depicted on their liveries. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 19:47, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
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Kept, withdrawn. Taivo (talk) 08:29, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
