Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bsb48052.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Taken in 1948; to not be affected by the URAA, it would have had to be taken in 1945 or earlier. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 04:00, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- Keep. As stated on the image page "Permission to publish this photograph on Wikipedia was given per fax dated 6 August 2005 from Michael Talbot, State Library of South Australia to en:User:Moondyne). Acknowledgement is hereby given: "Photograph courtesy of the State Library of South Australia, PRG 682/18/48,1948,p.52". Permission is contingent on use of low resolution image only." I no longer have that fax but can confirm permission was definitely received. If this is a case of incorrect licensing, perhaps the nominator can advise how best to remedy other than by deletion. The image is important in that it is central on several FA and GA articles on the English Wikipedia. 08:26, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Moondyne (talk)
- Licensed for Wikipedia use is not free enough for Commons, as patently clear from the numerous deletions of Wikipedia only images. This is not simply "incorrect licensing". The image is not free in the US, and Commons requires that images be free in both the source country and the US (per Commons:Licensing). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- If I read that correctly, the URAA says that copyright on foreign works was restored in the US if they were not PD in that foreign country in 1996. I would contend this was PD in Australia from its date of publication (1948), and therefore URAA does not apply (here). Moondyne (talk) 09:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- How would an image that was taken in 1948 be immediately in the PD upon being taken, unless there was an explicit release? The Australian copyright for this image expired in 1998 (two years after 1996), per s. 33 of the Copyright Act 1968. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- If you say so. Moondyne (talk) 07:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- How would an image that was taken in 1948 be immediately in the PD upon being taken, unless there was an explicit release? The Australian copyright for this image expired in 1998 (two years after 1996), per s. 33 of the Copyright Act 1968. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- If I read that correctly, the URAA says that copyright on foreign works was restored in the US if they were not PD in that foreign country in 1996. I would contend this was PD in Australia from its date of publication (1948), and therefore URAA does not apply (here). Moondyne (talk) 09:02, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Licensed for Wikipedia use is not free enough for Commons, as patently clear from the numerous deletions of Wikipedia only images. This is not simply "incorrect licensing". The image is not free in the US, and Commons requires that images be free in both the source country and the US (per Commons:Licensing). — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Move to en.wiki The ridiculous nature of URAA moving of the goalposts from 1955 to 1945 for Australian images should not need debating over and over again, nor should any PD in Aust images be threatened with deletion. Just move it. The-Pope (talk) 09:48, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- The image is used on quite a number on non-English Wikipedias, so they would need to do likewise. I have no idea of the practicality or license-legalities of doing that. Moondyne (talk) 11:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
- Wouldn't work, since the English Wikipedia requires images to be free in the US. If this image were free in the US but not Australia, that would be doable. Just because we don't agree with copyright law doesn't mean we don't have to follow it. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 05:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
- Comment - Whatever happens with this image should also happen to File:Keith Johnson.jpg, a derivative of this image that is also up for deletion. Neelix (talk) 02:33, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: Per the URAA, this image was still copyright-protected on 1 January 1996. It became PD in Australia on 1 January 1999 but Commons requires files to be PD in both the source country and the USA. The image will not become PD in the US until 95 years after publication, i.e. 1 January 2043. Commons cannot host this file until then. Green Giant (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
