Commons:Deletion requests/File:Borisovo (Moscow Metro) 2 dec 2011.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Copyright warning already issued, has to be deleted due to no FOP in Russia. PereslavlFoto (talk) 20:58, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
- In English: Please do not delete this file! It's very important for me! I ask question to nomitator what wrong with this file (or maybe licence)
- Русский: Пожалуйста, не удаляйте этот файл! Он очень важен для меня! Я задал вопрос номинатору, что неправильно с этим файлом (или может быть, лицензией). --Brateevsky (talk) 20:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Русский: Тов. Brateevsky, фотка никуда не пропала, я её подретушевал в фотощопе и загрузил в ру-википедияEnglish: Five minutes ago I was corrected this photo and was upload in Russian Wikipedia--Vladislavus (talk) 11:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC).
- Keep There is nothing in the image which is relevant for copyright. The only thing that features some original design is the lighting, but this is a technical object and not an artwork. What remains meets as far the threshold of originality as, say, this railplatform. A.Savin 22:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
- Info Speaking about lighting, the architect N. Ya. Kolli says: artificial lighting was one of the determining factors of design. We had to consider how the color of coating will look in artificial light; do the lighting in a way to avoud the impression of burning lamps everywhere, lighting fixtures, all struggling with the darkness. We see that the lighting is an important architectural creative work.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 11:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- The DR is about a station opened in 2011 that is not the subject of the above link. Perhaps in older MM stations which were built after individual projects the lighting is a part of the general artwork (compare e.g. to this one), but surely not here. It is a product of technical design, so it is similarly ineligible for copyright as, say, the Sapsan train. - A.Savin 14:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Well, this may sound serious, should we be architects. Still, in my humble opinion, a station based on non-individual project makes the desing of lights even more important for the architect's creative force. Let me show an example: while Vladimir Lenin's figure is unified and it's hard to change anything in it, there are numerous Lenin memorials covered by copyright. This station looks the same for me. It is based on a unified source, but adapted to some place and environment. OK, I will check the press articles, if any modern architect states a position about this creation.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 15:09, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Lev Popov had his special style of vaulted stations, the same style applied to "Borisovo", as Шумаков said. In general he states that the whole impression is based on volume and light and picturesque vaults.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 19:59, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- The DR is about a station opened in 2011 that is not the subject of the above link. Perhaps in older MM stations which were built after individual projects the lighting is a part of the general artwork (compare e.g. to this one), but surely not here. It is a product of technical design, so it is similarly ineligible for copyright as, say, the Sapsan train. - A.Savin 14:45, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- I still miss a source/proof for your claims concerning *this* image/station. Btw, "in your humble opinion" alone does not provide you the right to implement a deletion policy here on Commons. A.Savin 20:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- We all miss permission from architect Лев Николаевич Попов (+ October 9, 2008) or his heirs. As the newspaper "Метростроевец" said, "его по праву можно назвать классиком архитектуры Московского метрополитена... он оставил ярчайший след в архитектуре московского метро".--PereslavlFoto (talk) 20:40, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- You are right, my humble opinion is as negligible as yours. So let's read the words from Николай Иванович Шумаков, chief architect of «Метрогипротранс». I hope the quotes from two architects are quite interesting.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 20:43, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- I still miss a source/proof for your claims concerning *this* image/station. Btw, "in your humble opinion" alone does not provide you the right to implement a deletion policy here on Commons. A.Savin 20:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep PereslavlFoto is a vandal in Russian Wikipedia. Dear administrators, if you delete this file, immortalize vandal`s contribution. Sincerely Martsabus
- Please cite the source. Also, I doubt you are asking administrators to immortalize a vandal’s contribution. Either way, one could be a vandal in a Wikipedia but not at Commons. --AVRS (talk) 11:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- He's just making quarrels, nothing more.--PereslavlFoto (talk) 11:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Please cite the source. Also, I doubt you are asking administrators to immortalize a vandal’s contribution. Either way, one could be a vandal in a Wikipedia but not at Commons. --AVRS (talk) 11:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Accusing without a proof makes you a vandal here. Artem Karimov (talk) 09:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep This common view image no violates the Russian free panorama low because it is not a 2D or 3D drawing or image projection in high resolution completely enough as threshold of art or technical originality for reproducing of whole copyrighted object (or it's any parts) of image; the common discussion took place and closed there and similar images like [1] etc were kept. MetroDreams (talk) 11:08, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Delete. No freedom of panorama in Russia. This image does exceed originality threshold and therefore copyright violation occurs. Artem Karimov (talk) 09:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Reads like you are the one who decide where is the originality threshold. - A.Savin 11:26, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Your sysop status does not entitle you to deny others an opinion. Artem Karimov (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Which is still no valid argument why does the image exceed originality threshold. A.Savin 12:56, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Your sysop status does not entitle you to deny others an opinion. Artem Karimov (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Reads like you are the one who decide where is the originality threshold. - A.Savin 11:26, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Keep It's just a wide corridor, and not a particularly original one at that. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 14:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
- Actually the "wide corridor" has numerous decorations and the unique style. Artem Karimov (talk) 05:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Meh! It's got lighting channels and a curved ceiling. Not that unique. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 06:58, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Deleted: Sorry, folks, but it is clearly architecturally creative. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 16:11, 8 January 2012 (UTC)