Commons:Deletion requests/File:Books of Bismil.jpg
This file was initially tagged by Sitush as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: The books are not self-published and the uploader has a dreadful history here, at en-WP and at hi-WP. He is indef blocked from the latter two due to persistent competence problems and this looks like another example - the covers are copyrighted, whether or not he took the photo MGA73 (talk) 08:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Question May I ask what you mean by "The book is not self-published"? Is the book not published by Krantmlverma? Then who is the author?
- Krantmlverma is an author and has published several books. The problem have been that he could not always prove that the the images he used in his book were old enough to be PD. --MGA73 (talk) 08:16, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- Authors rarely self-publish - that is usually the publisher's job. All of Verma's work have been published by organisations rather than by him personally, eg: see this at WorldCat. Verma has, however, on numerous occasions claimed that the covers of the books are his "own work" and on numerous occasions this has been shown not to be so: he seems unable to understand that just because he wrote the book does not mean he holds the copyright to a design produced by someone else. This explanation may assist. - Sitush (talk) 17:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Comment He does not seem to be indef blocked on hi-wiki as suggested above see here. --MGA73 (talk) 08:19, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- He has claimed to be indef'd there and others who frequent hi-WP have told me that he is. But I'm not delving through umpteen months of contributions across numerous projects to prove it. Very recently, he has commented on being blocked there (he doesn't mention indef on this occasion). - Sitush (talk) 17:04, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
- Update: it seems that it is his socks that were indef'd at hi-WP. As you point out, he is currently on a three month block (including removal of email access) for his main account ... for doing exactly the same sort of thing as at en-WP and here. I've never knowingly edited hi-WP but see this discussion. He is still seemingly editing at en-WP as an IP and has some poor stuff at Wikisource. Much more of this and I can see it ending up with a meta-ban. - Sitush (talk) 17:43, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Some short of clarification from the uploader's side also: Mr Sitush! I have already requested you here not to indulge yourself in tug of war with a genuine person like me. For your information Mr. Shiju Alex had visited to my home along with Mr. Awadhesh Pandey and one advocate Mr. Yogesh Solanki to confirm about my identity. He had seen each and every paper viz. my books, photographs and copyrights etc. Fortunately my son Swadesh Gaurav had taken the photographs of all sitting with me, which I can produce any time if needed. Moreover I had also attended the Conference India 2011 held at Mumbai where thousands of wikipedians and volunteers were present. You have also threatened him here and got me blocked here. My dear comrade! I once again request you with folded hand, please do not show such a biased attitude towards me. Let the organization decide; you, me or anybody is not the organization in person. Okay! Krantmlverma (talk) 08:31, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Krant, I'm afraid that this merely demonstrates your continued inability to understand how Wikipedia operates. No-one is suggesting that you are pretending to be someone else - the problem is that you have shown a complete lack of competence over a prolonged period and multiple projects, despite numerous people attempting to explain the various situations that have occurred. I've tried myself on several occasions but, sorry, I've run out of patience now. - Sitush (talk) 13:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Question If the problem is that it is not 100 % clear if it is the author or the publisher who is the copyright holder of the covers then a solution could be that Krantmlverma ask his publisher(s) if they could make a written statement that Krantmlverma has all the rights to the book(s)/cover(s). Would that do the trick? --MGA73 (talk) 16:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Well, the image is far from clear! In fact, it should probably be deleted on those grounds. But, no, the issue regarding publisher/author is clear-cut: Krant is not the publisher & all past attempts to get him to understand OTRS etc have failed, although I vaguely recall one occasion when he provided some "proof" that turned out to be, at best, severely economical with the truth. Fastily has deleted a whole heap of Krant's uploads recently. - Sitush (talk) 18:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
- Question Kindly see the Summery of File:Books of Bismil.jpg once again. In the column of Description it has been clearly mentioned by me
"An image of a collage of 8 books of Bismil taken by Kodak camera (only front cover with low resolution)". Date is given as 1 August 2011 (original upload date). And in the column of Permission (Reusing this file) I have written at the very first undertaking as "I hereby assert that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the work [Only Front Cover of the books of Bismil whose auther is I myself]." Even then if some body is questioning about my honesty, what else can be done? Krantmlverma (talk) 06:32, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
- Comment This can only be free licensed as own work by the uploader if the uploader created and is copyright holder of all the images on the covers of the books visible (or if the book covers are PD or otherwise free licensed). If the covers are free licensed by the copyright holder, the image should be uploaded at high resolution. If not, it should not be uploaded here at all. -- Infrogmation (talk) 00:43, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: Unclear copyright status. Unless we have clear, explicit written/textual, tangible evidence indicating that this file is indeed freely licensed under a Commons compatible license, we cannot host it on Commons FASTILY 08:15, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
