Commons:Deletion requests/File:Birth Certificate of Ketevan "Keke" Geladze.jpg

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File:Birth Certificate of Ketevan "Keke" Geladze.jpg

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This image is fake. Please investigate the fonts used, it's clear this was made with a computer, and the poster is claiming that it was produced in a time where these fonts did not exist. 142.196.160.75 10:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What you may view as "computer fonts" to this document that was originally typed with a typewriter and handwriting, is no concern. We, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Georgia, released a replica copy of said document, and is to be considered official. As a result, your request to have file removed is denied. I personally also would like to note, that "fonts" are similar to handwriting styles. This is what originally fonts are for. Some will be similar to handwriting, especially in old days. We are sorry if this confused you. Document is real. Loktionov12 (talk) 10:54, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete Obvious hoax. Georgia was part of Russian Empire at that time and Georgian birth certificate in 1858 would have Russian text. Taivo (talk) 10:23, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lol the only problem with that statement is 1. The locals did not speak Russian. 2. Georgia has always spoke Georgian. 3. You have the Ministry of foreign affairs of Georgia telling you the document is real. But hey, let's ignore that because.... censorship. Murica! Fuck yah! 172.98.87.172 19:12, 28 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Document-issuing officials knew Russian enough well to produce simple documents with standard text. And I repeat: obvious hoax. Commercially manufactured typewriters were not yet invented in 1858. Taivo (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, there were no "document-issuing officials", in fact it's the locals that did everything pretty much. Such documents weren't even "required", second of all, typewriters back then were easy to build, often used, but not commercially sold. As in a business. Third of all, as the governmental person stated, it's a replica. A newly, but official document of the original. So yes, a typewriter and handwriting is the case here. But obviously it's been cleaned up. Duh! 172.98.87.100 09:39, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems the majority even disagrees with you, Taivol. 172.98.87.100 09:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot believe we are even discussing this! Get on a computer and you can see it's not fake. Zoom it! This is ridiculous! It's a document. An actual document. 172.98.85.122 09:47, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

..... birth certificates weren't even considered "legal documents". The people there only created these for memories. In fact the people there used these type of documents for identification but considering how back then a lot did not even know how to read or write properly, not a whole lot of people used it. It's very interesting to see how beautiful this document is, and whoever created it, was very smart. Handwriting is nice too. No? She/he did a great job. You have to admit. There are even signs of ink being used too. Anyways It's really interesting to study Stalin's family. I do, and highly request, for this document to not be censored. 98.208.27.208 10:03, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are you idiotic trolls being serious? I mean with all due respect who are you to say this document is fake? It's not btw. I mean that's quite clear. I ask that you keep an open mind here, for you to actually look at it, etc. 98.208.27.208 18:52, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Delete May want to look at the archives of the talk page for w:en:Keke Geladze, where presumably the same editor attempted to use this image to push their bizarre claim that some American woman was the grandmother of Stalin and had the same pattern of using multiple proxies Cannolis (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm not the uploader. But since you mentioned this, no proxies were used on that one article. Those were actual people disagreeing with you. What can be claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. 98.208.27.208 00:00, 31 January 2016 (UTC) You people really hate when you're wrong, don't you? You guys go as far to completely want to censor a legitimate document. How nice. I'm done here. I just thought I would give my two cents. 98.208.27.208 00:02, 31 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Per discussion ignoring the sock/meatpuppet parade. --Natuur12 (talk) 14:27, 1 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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