Commons:Deletion requests/File:BDSM Collar and Chain.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
i feel that photos of models from https://www.flickr.com/photos/27832234@N07/ are flickrwashing.
- the account only has a few photos of models. a photographer would usually have more photos of the same person, or more photos of different persons.
- the photos' styles are not consistent.
- these photos of models often have no camera info.
- other photos were taken with various cameras.
i suggest deleting this photo and blacklisting this flickr account to prevent photos being imported again. RZuo (talk) 14:02, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Agree. If I understand the Portuguese Civil Code art 79 correctly, consent of the model would be required for publication. There is no indication here or on Flickr that this consent has ever been given. --MarcoSwart (talk) 23:35, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- @MarcoSwart But there is no indication that this consent has not been given. If it turns out that this consent has not been given (and the model actually objects to publication), then the damage is all over Wikimedia and all over the web. Brianjd (talk) 09:56, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- The image nominated here is Mulher Gotica 2. It is used at Category:Collars (BDSM) and at 28 pages on other projects: ar:بي دي إس إم, ar:تسليع المرأة, ar:غرابة جنسية, az:BDSM, ca:Kink, cs:Portál:Sexualita/Obrázek měsíce/Archiv, cs:Obojek (BDSM), cs:Portál:Sexualita/Obrázek měsíce/2010/03, en:BDSM, en:Kink (sexuality), eo:Kolzono (besto), es:Kink, fa:کینک (گرایش جنسی), fr:Servitude (BDSM), fr:Discussion utilisateur:NaggoBot/CommonsDR, id:BDSM, ne:गुनुत्वरीडाष्टी, pt:Kink (sexualidade), sv:Kink (sexualitet), th:บีดีเอสเอ็ม, tr:BDSM, tr:Kink, uk:Кінк (сексуальність), uz:BDSM, wikidata:Q1572196, wikidata:Wikidata:WikiProject Fashion/To Do/Clothing list, zh:BDSM and zh:奴役 (BDSM). TinEye finds 80 results (some from Wikimedia projects), but all are after the upload here. Brianjd (talk) 09:54, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- There is no indication whatsoever that the picture was taken at a public location or event and as the model has her eyes closed, we cannot assume that she was (is?) even aware of this picture being taken. In a worst-case scenario, she may be aware of the widespread use of this picture, but feeling too ashamed and powerless to do anything about it.
- To be clear: if consent of the model was clearly established, I would very much support keeping this picture as a wonderful illustration of BDSM. But as things stand, we ought to delete it. MarcoSwart (talk) 20:07, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- she may be aware of the widespread use of this picture, but feeling too ashamed and powerless to do anything about it A possibility that the Commons community would rather not acknowledge, I think. And that goes for all images of people, not just the ones involving nudity or sexuality. It is not really an answer, though: it doesn’t explain what to do about other copies of this image or, more to the point, other images that lack evidence of consent. Brianjd (talk) 11:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- This discussion regards just this picture, here on Commons. COM:PHOTOCONSENT allows for decisions made on a picture by picture basis. The nature of this picture and Portuguese law make prior consent a necessity. We have no indication of consent for this picture to be taken, because of the closed eyes. We have no indication of consent for uploading, neither "portugalpictures" on Flickr nor Max Rebo Band have provided any information in this regard. We don't have information whether the model is aware of the use of this picture, let alone that she has given her consent. MarcoSwart (talk) 07:02, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
- she may be aware of the widespread use of this picture, but feeling too ashamed and powerless to do anything about it A possibility that the Commons community would rather not acknowledge, I think. And that goes for all images of people, not just the ones involving nudity or sexuality. It is not really an answer, though: it doesn’t explain what to do about other copies of this image or, more to the point, other images that lack evidence of consent. Brianjd (talk) 11:06, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, per discussion. Copyrighted, and consent would be required per Commons:Country_specific_consent_requirements#Portugal. --Ellywa (talk) 22:18, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
