Commons:Deletion requests/File:Armoiries Saxe.png
This image is wrong: it is "barry of twelve or and sable" where as the correct coat of arms of Saxony is "barry of ten sable and or" (i.e. 
). Moreover, this picture is not used anymore. --BrightRaven (talk) 15:38, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
- If the image is wrong, changing the description would be enough. The image is mentioned (and, I guess, used) in File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png. Erik Warmelink (talk) 12:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
- Yes we could change the description, but I don't see why it would make sense to keep this image: this coat of arms simply does not exist. It's quite like keeping a map with a spelling error on it. This image is also wrong, but it seems there is not right version at the moment. I don't think File:Armoiries Saxe.png was used to create File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png, since it's a PNG file. Even if it was, the design of these coats of arms are in the public domain, so I don't think there's a copyright problem about it. BrightRaven (talk) 16:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- As I said, the image is used. "this image is wrong" is not a valid reason to remove an image. Since File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png mentions this image, labeling this image as erroneous will even help people who want to improve HosdlmdS, because it enables them to see why the error was introduced in that image. Erik Warmelink (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
- Yes we could change the description, but I don't see why it would make sense to keep this image: this coat of arms simply does not exist. It's quite like keeping a map with a spelling error on it. This image is also wrong, but it seems there is not right version at the moment. I don't think File:Armoiries Saxe.png was used to create File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png, since it's a PNG file. Even if it was, the design of these coats of arms are in the public domain, so I don't think there's a copyright problem about it. BrightRaven (talk) 16:50, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
Kept. Demonstrated utility, so in scope. Please edit the image description to indicate the matter. Dereckson (talk) 10:51, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
see above, replaced by a correct file now Antemister (talk) 22:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
weak keep - Same problem as above, the image is still in use - File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png.-- Darwin Ahoy! 22:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Kept I'm keeping this for the reasons given above, we do not generally delete "wrong" images. Also, I am by no means at all an expert on heraldry, but I note that the blazon at http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org, the source for this image, is
- "Burelé de sable et d'or, au crancelin de sinople, brochant en bande sur le tout"
Unless I am mistaken this does not call for either ten or twelve. With that said, I also note that the CoA shown there is ten, not twelve. . Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 22:30, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
The reasons for keeping this files are incorrect imho.
- The fact that the file is used in File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png should not be a reason for keeping this file: File:Map of SEATO member countries.png was deleted even if it is used in File:Map of SEATO member countries - de.svg (see also Commons:Undeletion requests/Archive/2013-12).
- Jameslwoodward seems to have missed an important point when he closed the previous DR: the main problem is not the number of lines, but the colours. In the correct coat of arms of Saxonny, the first line is black ("barry of ten sable and or") whereas in this file the first line is yellow ("barry of twelve or and sable"). Moreover, it seems that "burelé" without any further precision means "ten lines": see [1]. On [2] (where the blazon given by Jameslwoodward is given), the coat of arms of Saxonny has 10 lines not more. Consequently, this file is clearly wrong and cannot have any potential educational purpose.
- Jameslwoodward also said that we do not generally delete "wrong" images. However File:Map of SEATO member countries.png was deleted even if it is not clearly demonstrated that it is wrong (some users just consider it as misleading). (The same Jameslwoodward opposed the process of undeletion of this file because it was misleading.) BrightRaven (talk) 09:10, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
- Additionnally, it seems that File:Héraldique origine saxonne de la maison de Savoie.png was deleted in the meantime. BrightRaven (talk) 09:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Deleted, the file is not used anymore. Contrary to James, I think, that Commons must generally not keep wrong images. Old, historical, outdated images – yes, but not wrong ones. Taivo (talk) 16:57, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
