Commons:Deletion requests/File:Are You Experienced - US cover.jpg
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It seems fantastical to me that a major record label with a multi-million selling album like this has no copyright on its cover —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
Delete - unless someone can prove that there is no copyright attached (perhaps scan the album material and upload it to a third party site so we can see it?). Magog the Ogre (talk) 06:48, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
- As stated in the information template, I carefully examined both the front & back covers and the LP itself and found no copyright notice. Same as for File:Anna Russell Sings Again - cover.jpg; I brought up discussion about the validity of using {{PD-US-no notice}} when I uploaded these files - see Commons_talk:Licensing/Archive_15#Pre-1978_album_covers.
- It's actually not surprising that there could be no notice, as the audio recordings themselves were not copyrightable in the US at that time. I examined a number of albums at the time I uploaded, and found that some did have copyright notices, but others did not; in the case of those that did, it appeared that publishers only thought to include a notice when there were extensive liner notes, they weren't thinking so much about the copyright of things like cover images. There are many objects outside of traditional book/newspaper publishing that didn't bother with copyright notices in the pre-1978 years, which have been found to be useful sources for Commons - e.g. college yearbooks, magazine advertisements, movie trailers and publicity stills, campaign posters, etc. I uploaded the two album covers as an example project for the students in my Wikimedia class, hoping someone would follow up with a lot more; sadly, that hasn't happened. --dave pape (talk) 03:44, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Notice My claim is not that there is no notice, but that there is no copyright. In the United States, the moment you take a photograph, you have a copyright to it, so they would have to explicitly release it under a free license or into the public domain. Whomever took that photograph (let alone the graphic design) owns that intellectual property until we know otherwise. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not quite; that's only been the case since the Berne Convention (effective date: March 1989). Magog the Ogre (talk) 10:19, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ah Thanks for clarifying! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:27, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Notice My claim is not that there is no notice, but that there is no copyright. In the United States, the moment you take a photograph, you have a copyright to it, so they would have to explicitly release it under a free license or into the public domain. Whomever took that photograph (let alone the graphic design) owns that intellectual property until we know otherwise. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:46, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Kept per above details and Commons:Deletion requests/File:Are You Experienced - US cover-edit.jpg -- Infrogmation (talk) 13:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
