Commons:Deletion requests/File:Aragorn II.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
This is a collective deletion request for all images in Category:Drawings by Gregor Roffalski. The artist is non-notable and frankly this is just unprofessional fan-art. Therefore it is out of scope. ~ De728631 (talk) 17:58, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. I've uploaded these images from Tolkien Gateway. This deletion request is really astonishing... can you explain exactly which Commons policy do they break? They all are media files in an allowable free file format, with an adequate freely licensed (CC-BY-SA-3.0-migrated), and no derivative stuff; so there isn't any problem over there. You mention the scope. This one (Aragorn II.jpg) is legitimately in use on four different Wikipedias (es, gl, ia, pl) so it “is considered automatically to be useful for an educational purpose”. I haven't checked all files, but they are similar in this aspect. So the only real reason I can imagine is that the files are bad drawings. Obviously these files aren't candidates to the image of the day. I'd prefer to have an Alan Lee between wikipedians, but that is not the case, so (unless you can paint it better) these are the only free images to illustrate a bunch of articles in Wikipedias with no fair use policy. Even I must cite “a file that is used in good faith on a Wikimedia project is always considered educational, so a poor quality file that remains in use is not liable to deletion even if a better-quality file covering the same subject later becomes available”. It's funny the way you call them “unprofessional”... if only professional content would be valid in Commons we should remove 98% of the repository, so...
Keep. Waiting for your explanations, regards, Rondador (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- I can understand your frustration but per Commons: Fan art such images may be hosted if they are "realistically useful for an educational purpose, as required by our project scope (note that self-created artwork without obvious educational use is specifically excluded)". I for one doubt the educational use of these images because they are just someone's renditions of the different Tolkien characters while there are multiple images from professional adaptations and/or artists that can be hosted individually on a fair use basis. The term "educational" is defined as “providing knowledge; instructional or informative” in the project scope. These images however can't be used to showcase the artist's work because he's not notable and they provide no information other than that a certain Gregor Roffalski envisions Aragorn et al. in that specific way and therefore I think the "self-created artwork" clause is applicable here.
- And as to your argument of automatic usefulness, please note that the condition reads "a media file that is in use on one of the other projects of the Wikimedia Foundation..." – that is to say that files that are hosted on a Wikipedia site and have been approved over there may be transferred from WP to Commons because they are useful, but just because any WP uses something from Commons that Commons content needs not be educationally useful per se. De728631 (talk) 23:30, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Kept: Since at least one of these is in use, they are not all out of scope. De728631 may start a new DR, specifically listing only those images that are not in use. Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk to me) 14:35, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
