Commons:Deletion requests/File:America Symbol.svg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Not realistically useful for an educational purpose - Symbol used for partisan political purposes in a manner incongruent with current guidelines. Kirkoconnell (talk) 13:00, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
Keep -- The origin of this symbol is that the official U.S. Republican party logo was claimed to be under copyright, and therefore Wikipedia "fair use" rules would not allow that official GOP logo to be placed beside the names of candidates who won Republican party primary elections in relevant Wikipedia articles. For this reason, the image File:America Symbol.svg was created as a copyright-free substitute symbol to be used in such contexts. (Note that there are thousands of such copyright-free substitute symbols on Commons in categories such as Category:Association football flag icons.) Since the copyright problem was only with the Republican party logo, naturally this replacement is used only in the case of Republican-party internal primary elections. User:Kirkoconnell claims to see something somehow derogatory in this usage -- but he is completely unable to explain in any reasoned or coherent manner what is allegedly derogatory and why it supposedly should be considered derogatory, despite writing copious amounts of verbiage. In any case, since there is no copyright problem about the image, and since there is nothing derogatory about the image itself, therefore his problem is NOT with the image itself, but with its uses on Wikipedia, and he should take it up there on Wikipedia, as I have repeatedly told him. Unfortunately, User:Kirkoconnell does not seem to be willing to learn the things that he'd need to know in order to discuss issues connected with this image in a constructive or productive manner... AnonMoos (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2019 (UTC)- Keep: Commons' policies include COM:INUSE, which says that files that are in use on another Wikimedia project are automatically considered to be useful for educational purposes. This file is in use on many Wikipedia articles, from en:2008 Virginia Republican primary to zh-yue:第58屆美國總統共和黨俄勒岡州提名初選, so it should not be deleted. @Kirkoconnell: If you object to the use of the symbol, the place to do that is on the projects where that use is occurring. --bjh21 (talk) 14:39, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed, and I am working on that. The problem with this completely unofficial and not required symbol that is used purely for partisan reasons is that the partisan users of it added it to dozens of articles, in order to be politically partisan. It seemed simpler, given AnonMoos admits this is partisan and unofficial, to just remove the media. If removing it on all the sites that use it is required to do that, then I will just do that. But individually deleting hundreds of copies of a symbol seemed inefficient, especially given it is admittedly partisan, used against current guidelines and is completely unofficial and has not meaning, OTHER than the political partisanship. Although I do find it interesting that because something has been used, regardless of the reason, you are advocating for it's continued use. So if I change all the election pages to be Democratic party themed, that would be okay to keep because I had already did it? Interesting standard. -Kirkoconnell (talk) 14:56, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
By the way, right now this deletion nomination is not in compliance, since User:Kirkoconnell has not notified User:Lolthatswonderful at User talk:Lolthatswonderful. (He also didn't notify me, but there wasn't any real practical need to do that...) AnonMoos (talk) 19:33, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- I've notified them (and you, for good measure). --bjh21 (talk) 21:20, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you. -Kirkoconnell (talk) 15:31, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Kept per discussion. Strakhov (talk) 14:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
