Commons:Deletion requests/File:All Work New Orleans Benton.jpg
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US Government work PD does not apply. Thomas Hart Benton made this under a commission from Abbott Laboratories, a private corporation, who later gave it to the US Navy. Copyrighted works which are acquired by the US Government are not subject to the US Govt work exception. See http://wayback.archive.org/web/20150111110400/http://www.history.navy.mil/ac/benton/benton1.htm for the gift by Abbott to the Navy and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government#Transfers re the status of copyrighted works acquired by the US Government. If no proper PD justification can be given, image should be deleted. TransporterMan (talk) 00:51, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Comment Note that the archive of the page this is from [1] give some info about Benton, including mentioning " "The Year of Peril," a series of grim and powerful war paintings financed by Abbott Laboratories." This image is NOT one of "The Year of Peril" series. Google: Examples of "The Year of Peril" series. The source website does NOT say these images were commissioned by Abbot Laboratories. (It simply states they are from the "Navy Art Collection".) If you have info that this image and the one in a related deletion request were a private commission rather than US Navy, present it and I will support deletion. However I find no such info in careful reading of the source page. -- Infrogmation (talk) 01:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
- But that page, which lists this image, says that it was "Gift of Abbott Laboratories" which means that it was not done for the government by a government employee, so there's no evidence that it is PD. It's the uploader's obligation to prove that the underlying artwork is PD, not the community's obligation to prove it was not. Regards, TransporterMan (talk) 13:41, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Delete As I commented at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Preliminary Shake Down New Orleans Benton.jpg, there is a book about Benton visible on Google Books that gives information on many of his works. This particular one does not seem to be specifically listed, but his works seem to be uniformly described as "Art copyright T. H. Benton and R. P. Benton Testamentary Trusts", including multiple works that are held by the Naval Historical Center. It appears that the copyrights were not transferred when the works were donated, making these not ok. (Though, as a side note, it is correct that the US Government can own copyrights transferred to it.) Revent (talk) 03:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Deleted: per cmts Alan (talk) 15:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
