Commons:Deletion requests/File:9886Rizal Park landmarks attractions historical memorials 47.jpg
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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Looks too modern to be public domain. Artworks in the Philippines are protected for 50 years after the artist's death. Painter should have died before 1969 for this to be PD, which seems very unlikely. There is also no COM:FOP in the Philippines. Howhontanozaz (talk) 15:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- Cannot find any immediate sources regarding this artwork. Unsure but somehow "uncomfortable" on its copyright status. I might page both @A1Cafel and Verbcatcher: who are mostly involved in artworks-related deletion nominations. However, while the gallery is a government-owned and managed establishment, this doesn't mean the works under their care are free or not copyrighted (see also the IPOPHL's latest reply, of which the whole extract is found here). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 15:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- To JWilz12345 I have raised 7 Questions on FOP vis-à-vis i am a smart one and co-conspirator (the Parent-Child Sock accounts orchestrating via Similar acts as evidence)
- The Nominator herein has valid and unresolved yet issues; It is fervently petitioned that - all the Nominations of the herein Nominator should be as ruled "going to keep this for now until someone else can nominate if they see fit"; Wherefore premises considered I humbly register my Strong Objection to this and the Mass Deletions Requests of the related Single Editor (underscoring for now and until the issue of Check user is resolved) May I quote this Please stop conducting more deletion requests 02:05, 10 September 2020 (UTC); I am still reviewing the Mass Deletions in my and User:Ramon FVelasquez talk pages; I plan to make an accounting and summations towards a conclusion on the Check User issue very sincerely Judgefloro (talk) 07:23, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- I have shared my inputs on FOP : A fervent appeal to Commons editors and administrators to save uploaded photos versus i am a smart one Judgefloro (talk) 07:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Judgefloro: sorry but, Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Howhontanozaz was closed with no decision, perhaps because there is no basis to claim that Howhontanozaz and the troll-nominator are both the same. And please, respond with focus to the nature and circumstances of the subject of your photo and not the nature of the user (which is a form of logical fallacy called "poisoning the well"). For the FOP, the status quo prevails (as the Sept.-Nov. discussion has concluded) - no freedom of panorama until Republic Act 8293 is amended to permit reproductions and publications of copyrighted artworks and architecture under free licenses and in commercial media like post cards, calendars, and commercial T-shirt prints. While IPOPHL is open for a possible dialogue with Wikimedia Foundation for FOP matter (meaning there may be a possibility that FOP may be introduced in our country), the proposed House Bill 8062 that will amend the copyright law still has no freedom of panorama provision (worse it has additional sections that may involve requesting telcos to block websites showing content that infringes copyright, and may also have the power to launch take down notices). Per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Evoque in Dubai 099 (5957859156).jpg which I accessed just recently, "deletion first is the right approach in accordance with Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle": Commons always respects the rights of the artists and architects, even if the general public of the country (the Philippines) does not. If you disagree, you may raise FOP issues at Commons:Village pump/Copyright or Commons talk:Freedom of panorama, and if you contest Precautionary principle, raise it at Commons:Village pump. Regards, JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:39, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- I have shared my inputs on FOP : A fervent appeal to Commons editors and administrators to save uploaded photos versus i am a smart one Judgefloro (talk) 07:12, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Delete: There is no freedom of panorama for drawings and paintings in the Philippines (see COM:FOP Philippines). The picture shown in the photograph is clearly too modern to be public domain, so we need evidence of permission from the artist who created the picture, as well as permission from the photographer. The uploader and claimed author Judgefloro appears to claim to be the former Philippines judge Florentino Floro, whose Wikipedia article does not mention the creation of artworks, and this file is not in Category:Florentino Floro. Therefore it seems unlikely that the the uploader created the artwork shown. Verbcatcher (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
- Good afternoon from hereat Bulacan; happy holidays to you and your family; I admit that this is not my painting; I just took this photo when I was touring Museum & Archive Gallery (National Parks Development Committee) of Rizal Park; I was granted permission by the Park Office and Administration to take photos as part of Philippine There is more fun in the Philippines I am respectfully submitting the matter to the sound discretion of Commons very sincerely Judgefloro (talk) 07:04, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Deleted, no freedom of panorama in the Philippines. Taivo (talk) 11:04, 16 December 2020 (UTC)