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In these envelopes depicted artwork are protected by copyright. ze-dan (talk) 08:56, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Скан маркированной почтовой карточки - официального знака почтовой оплаты: Почтовые правила], ст. 27 (международный документ, принятый РСС - Региональным сотрудничеством связи, в состав которого вошли республики б. СССР): "В качестве знаков почтовой оплаты применяются почтовые марки (в том числе беззубцовые и блоки), маркированные конверты, маркированные почтовые карточки и оттиски маркировальных машин". --Vizu (talk) 16:19, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Keep Автором банкнот СССР является Дубасов. Вся банкнота является знаком оплаты, а не только надпись "10 рублей". Вся маркированная карточка является знаком оплаты, согласно международным Почтовым правилам (а не только марка с надписью "4 копейки"). Знаком оплаты является полностью весь маркированный конверт либо маркированная карточка, как и сказано: они представляют собой одно, одновременно напечатанное целое. Не марка только, а вся лицевая сторона карточки либо конверта. Одно условие только - маркировка, напечатанная на конверте, либо франкировка. Это многократно олбсуждалось в проекте "Филателия". --Vizu (talk) 16:38, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- Keep Stamped envelopes and postal stationery cards of Russia (as well of the USSR) are official postage signs and according to Article 1259.6 of Part IV of the Civil Code (No. 230-FZ) of the Russian Federation dated December 18, 2006 they are not copyrighted. For more details see, please, Stamps in public domain: Russia and arguments against the deletion of File:1C PSE Russia 2008.jpg. Dmitry Ivanov (talk) 05:35, 9 April 2013 (UTC).
- Mailing envelope - {{PD-RU-exempt}}
- Postage stamps - {{PD-RU-exempt}}
- Image on the envelope - © Copyright
--ze-dan (talk) 10:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)- вся карточка, поскольку маркирована, является знаком почтовой оплаты. --Vizu (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, Ze-dan.
- The stamped envelope (or the postal stationery envelope, PSE, the envelope with an imprinted stamp) is an artwork. As a single whole this artwork as an official postage sign and as an official postage sign it is not copyrighted in the Russian Federation. The artworks like this are tagged as {{PD-RU-exempt}}.
- Some elements of the whole - of the stamped envelope – are not copyrighted: for example, an imprinted stamp: it is an official postage sign in itself. The address form is not copyrighted, too. Lines are a trivial thing they are ineligible for copyright. You can cut a stamp or an address line out of an envelope, create a derivative work and tag it as {{PD-RU-exempt}} or {{PD-ineligible}}.
- Other elements of the stamped envelope can be under protection of copyright; first of all it relates to illustrations. If, for example, the illustration of a stamped envelope is the reproduction of a painting created by an author died more than 100 years ago, you can cut the reproduction out and use it ({{PD-Art-Old}}, though, as a rule, there is no need to use a reproduction printed on an stamped envelope, you can find a better reproduction).
- On the other hand an illustration can be under the protection of the copyright (on one ground or another). In that case the illustration cannot be used separately, without a PSE or a postal stationery card. But an uncopyrighted artwork – a PSE or a postal card containing the illustration – can be tagged {{PD-RU-exempt}} and used.
- Mailing envelope - {{PD-RU-exempt}}
