Commons:Deletion requests/File:12riflebat.png
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Military patch created by a site that doesn't freely license. Abzeronow (talk) 18:00, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- I personally asked to the owner of the website to upload the patches on Wikipedia, he said it's ok. And the patches are also free of copyright according ukrainian law. Filli99 (talk) 19:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- The owner of the website either needs to show that this drawing of the patch is under a free license or he needs to contact COM:VRT because all I see is an all rights reserved copyright notice. Yes, the patch would be free from copyright in Ukraine, but this drawing would have its own separate copyright. Abzeronow (talk) 19:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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Oppose This file represents the insignia of a Ukrainian military unit, this representation is therefore excluded from Copyright according to Ukrainian law (online on the official website of the Ukrainian government here => [1] ) which therefore places this file in the public domain, regardless of the means used to reproduce it. - It is therefore appropriate not to remove this file from the public domain, but to add the template {{Insignia}} in addition to the template {{PD-UA-exempt} }.
- There is no need for permission other than Ukrainian law.
- Christian28TMA (talk) 19:36, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- When someone creates a drawing of an emblem, the drawing would have its own copyright, which is the reason why I filed this DR. I'm not disputing the emblem itself is not copyrighted, but the drawing would very much be in copyright by the artist. Abzeronow (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow: No, whatever process is used to reproduce a Ukrainian military insignia, the resulting image will always be excluded from copyright by Ukrainian law, that would be too easy, it would be enough to redraw the insignia, say "this is I who did it" and to demand royalties from the Ukrainian army: If it is the image or reproduction of a badge used by the soldiers of the Ukrainian army, it is in the public domain . Even the original design of the badge is excluded from copyright, only drafts are entitled to it, but they do not represent the badge exactly. Christian28TMA (talk) 20:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Butko: @Ahonc: I'm going to ask a few people who know more about Ukrainian law to check your claim. Abzeronow (talk) 21:07, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Well, according new copyright law, symbols of military inits are not copyrighted if they are officially adopted by state authorities.--Anatoliy 🇺🇦 (talk) 21:53, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Butko: @Ahonc: I'm going to ask a few people who know more about Ukrainian law to check your claim. Abzeronow (talk) 21:07, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Abzeronow: No, whatever process is used to reproduce a Ukrainian military insignia, the resulting image will always be excluded from copyright by Ukrainian law, that would be too easy, it would be enough to redraw the insignia, say "this is I who did it" and to demand royalties from the Ukrainian army: If it is the image or reproduction of a badge used by the soldiers of the Ukrainian army, it is in the public domain . Even the original design of the badge is excluded from copyright, only drafts are entitled to it, but they do not represent the badge exactly. Christian28TMA (talk) 20:56, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- When someone creates a drawing of an emblem, the drawing would have its own copyright, which is the reason why I filed this DR. I'm not disputing the emblem itself is not copyrighted, but the drawing would very much be in copyright by the artist. Abzeronow (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
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- The owner of the website either needs to show that this drawing of the patch is under a free license or he needs to contact COM:VRT because all I see is an all rights reserved copyright notice. Yes, the patch would be free from copyright in Ukraine, but this drawing would have its own separate copyright. Abzeronow (talk) 19:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Kept: per discussion. Image (same drawing) is found on several official sites on the web, such as https://www.facebook.com/p/12-%D0%9E%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D1%96%D0%BB%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%8C%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD-100086514117545/. --Ellywa (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
