Commons:Deletion requests/File:우정잉 오리사진.png
This file came from the YouTube video which has its own copyright. Nt (talk) 12:37, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
No. It's not a YouTube video. The resolution is different--Wewillgogo (talk) 12:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wewillgogo, could you upload EXIF data, showing things like what camera you used to shoot the photo, the time stamp, the exposure and so on? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:26, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Ikan Kekek No data. --Wewillgogo (talk) 13:43, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
This is TwitchTV Snapshot. -- Wewillgogo (talk) 14:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- Got it, thanks. And TwitchTV uses a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license, so anyone can do a screenshot of any of their clips or even upload the clip here freely? Or is this video in particular under a CC license? Where on that site is the relevant licensing information noted? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
- That person did not indicate a separate license.
- therefore
- Licensed under the Twitch Standard License.
- This is a Twitch Standard License (8. User Content - a. License to Twitch.. Reference )
- https://www.twitch.tv/p/en/legal/terms-of-service/ Wewillgogo (talk) 02:56, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I read this: "Unless otherwise expressly stated in writing by Twitch, by agreeing to these Terms of Service you are granted a limited, non-sublicensable license (i.e., a personal and limited right) to access and use the Twitch Services for your personal use or internal business use only." Then I read the "License to Twitch," and maybe I'm missing something in the legal language, but it looks like it gives Twitch and anyone the company specifically decides to license: "an unrestricted, worldwide, irrevocable, fully sub-licenseable, nonexclusive, and royalty-free right to: (a) use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such User Content (including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Twitch Services (and derivative works thereof) in any form, format, media, or media channels now known or later developed or discovered; and (b) use the name, identity, likeness, and voice (or other biographical information) that you submit in connection with such User Content." Nonexclusive is good because that doesn't per se preclude others to do these things, but where does it state that it's OK to use Twitch content for commercial purposes without affirmative permission from Twitch? I see an implication that that could be OK but no clear language expressly permitting it, so that would be likely to be a problem here. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- May I know what's best for the current situation?
- Can I change it to a YouTube picture that is licensed for distribution? Wewillgogo (talk) 11:44, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Can I just change the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license? Wewillgogo (talk) 14:10, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- What in the terms on Twitch would give you the right to change them? -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:36, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I read this: "Unless otherwise expressly stated in writing by Twitch, by agreeing to these Terms of Service you are granted a limited, non-sublicensable license (i.e., a personal and limited right) to access and use the Twitch Services for your personal use or internal business use only." Then I read the "License to Twitch," and maybe I'm missing something in the legal language, but it looks like it gives Twitch and anyone the company specifically decides to license: "an unrestricted, worldwide, irrevocable, fully sub-licenseable, nonexclusive, and royalty-free right to: (a) use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such User Content (including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Twitch Services (and derivative works thereof) in any form, format, media, or media channels now known or later developed or discovered; and (b) use the name, identity, likeness, and voice (or other biographical information) that you submit in connection with such User Content." Nonexclusive is good because that doesn't per se preclude others to do these things, but where does it state that it's OK to use Twitch content for commercial purposes without affirmative permission from Twitch? I see an implication that that could be OK but no clear language expressly permitting it, so that would be likely to be a problem here. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
(i) Unless otherwise agreed to in a written agreement between you and Twitch that was signed by an authorized representative of Twitch, if you submit, transmit, display, perform, post, or store User Content using the Twitch Services, you grant Twitch and its sub-licensees, to the furthest extent and for the maximum duration permitted by applicable law (including in perpetuity if permitted under applicable law), an unrestricted, worldwide, irrevocable, fully sub-licenseable, nonexclusive, and royalty-free right to: (a) use, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display such User Content (including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Twitch Services (and derivative works thereof) in any form, format, media, or media channels now known or later developed or discovered; and
Twitch allows secondary creation and there is no separate mention of prohibiting commercial activities, so I think cc-by is correct. -- Wewillgogo (talk) 00:31, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
The Twitch license clearly states that secondary creations and commercial activities are prohibited. However, there is no prohibition in user content. This explains it. (7. License Reference) -- Wewillgogo (talk) 00:39, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Your reading of the license is different from mine. An admin will make a decision. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:42, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
- Okay. I will wait for the admin's decision. Wewillgogo (talk) 12:55, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
Delete Twitch TV licince cannot be converted into BY-SA-4.0. Terms are incompatible. Twitch TV may have such a permission for themselves, but they cannot grant it onwards to the whole world. Uploader is mistaken in his reading. SinghIsFxing (talk) 04:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. --✗plicit 03:48, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
