Commons:Deletion requests/File:Сообщение ТАСС о высылке Солженицына.jpg
Simple work is copyrightable in Russia. The free replacement (in text form) is exist - "Указ Президиума Верховного Совета СССР о лишении гражданства СССР и выдворении за пределы СССР Солженицына А. И. от 12 февраля 1974 г." in itself (here, for example - https://history.wikireading.ru/h3ZVgyk2DH) Alex Spade (talk) 18:46, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Keep, falls under PD-Russia which mentions in particular "an information report (including photo report), which was created by an employee of TASS"PD-RU-exempt. Also PD-text. Brandmeister (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2023 (UTC)- Do not fall under PD-Russia: p.4 is for pre-1953-work, and this is 1973-work. Work must be free in the US and the county of origin - simple work is copyrightable in Russia. Alex Spade (talk) 14:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ops, PD-RU-exempt seems to be the correct one ("news reports on events and facts, which have a purely informational character (daily news reports)"). Brandmeister (talk) 16:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nope. News in this point is news as itself (as event, as fact). Specific video/audio/text/photo from news report about event/fact is copyrighted. For example, reporter from some media agency was single eyewitness of some event, his/her agency can not to prohibit other agencies to make their reports about this event, and all their reports are copyrighted. So, we can rewrite this text, but can not use it directly as uncopyrightable. Alex Spade (talk) 17:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- There's no such interpretation in the related law. The current wording reads: announcements about events and facts that have an exclusively informative nature (news-of-the-day announcements, television program timetables, transport timetables, etc.). The file is literally an announcement of a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet which also falls under "official documents of state bodies" of PD-RU-exempt. Brandmeister (talk) 23:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- There are such interpretations in the jurisprudential commentaries and respective judicial opinions. P.4 of PD-RU-exempt is the Russian variant/analog of PD-ineligible for non-creative works. We can rewrite news reports. We can not declare, that some specific news report is ineligible to copyright due to lack of creativity, only court can (The Supreme Court of the Russian Federation, Part 80 of Session Resolution No. 10 of April 23, 2019 on Application of Part IV of the Civil Code of the Russian Federation, see cite below). It is unimportant that the decree is exempt in this case, the report text is not the straight citing of the decree. Alex Spade (talk) 11:01, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- There's no such interpretation in the related law. The current wording reads: announcements about events and facts that have an exclusively informative nature (news-of-the-day announcements, television program timetables, transport timetables, etc.). The file is literally an announcement of a decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet which also falls under "official documents of state bodies" of PD-RU-exempt. Brandmeister (talk) 23:08, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Nope. News in this point is news as itself (as event, as fact). Specific video/audio/text/photo from news report about event/fact is copyrighted. For example, reporter from some media agency was single eyewitness of some event, his/her agency can not to prohibit other agencies to make their reports about this event, and all their reports are copyrighted. So, we can rewrite this text, but can not use it directly as uncopyrightable. Alex Spade (talk) 17:09, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ops, PD-RU-exempt seems to be the correct one ("news reports on events and facts, which have a purely informational character (daily news reports)"). Brandmeister (talk) 16:48, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Do not fall under PD-Russia: p.4 is for pre-1953-work, and this is 1973-work. Work must be free in the US and the county of origin - simple work is copyrightable in Russia. Alex Spade (talk) 14:47, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
[...] Судам при разрешении вопроса об отнесении конкретного результата интеллектуальной деятельности к объектам авторского права следует учитывать, что по смыслу статей 1228, 1257 и 1259 ГК РФ в их взаимосвязи таковым является только тот результат, который создан творческим трудом. При этом надлежит иметь в виду, что, пока не доказано иное, результаты интеллектуальной деятельности предполагаются созданными творческим трудом. Необходимо также принимать во внимание, что само по себе отсутствие новизны, уникальности и (или) оригинальности результата интеллектуальной деятельности не может свидетельствовать о том, что такой результат создан не творческим трудом и, следовательно, не является объектом авторского права.
- I do not see any copyrightable creative work in this TASS report, it almost entirely reports the content of a public domain document: "By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, for systematic actions incompatible with the citizenship of the USSR and causing harm to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Solzhenitsyn A. I. is deprived of the citizenship of the USSR and expelled from the Soviet Union on 13 February 1974. Solzhenitsyn's family can visit him whenever it deems necessary". That's about it. Brandmeister (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Crop the 2nd paragraph from shot of the report, and I will have agreed. There are no any words about family in the Decree. Alex Spade (talk) 06:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- I still don't see that one-sentence 2nd paragraph as copyrightable under PD-RU-exempt. But that's just my opinion. Brandmeister (talk) 19:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- As I have cited The Supreme Court - work is creative on default: the user's PoV is unimportant, only court defines lack of creativity. Simplicity is not criterion of copyrightability, Black Square was copyrighted, and it is in PD because of copyright term expiration, not simplicity. Alex Spade (talk) 08:19, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- I still don't see that one-sentence 2nd paragraph as copyrightable under PD-RU-exempt. But that's just my opinion. Brandmeister (talk) 19:25, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Crop the 2nd paragraph from shot of the report, and I will have agreed. There are no any words about family in the Decree. Alex Spade (talk) 06:48, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- I do not see any copyrightable creative work in this TASS report, it almost entirely reports the content of a public domain document: "By the decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, for systematic actions incompatible with the citizenship of the USSR and causing harm to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Solzhenitsyn A. I. is deprived of the citizenship of the USSR and expelled from the Soviet Union on 13 February 1974. Solzhenitsyn's family can visit him whenever it deems necessary". That's about it. Brandmeister (talk) 21:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination, not PD in Russia or the US. --Abzeronow (talk) 17:26, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
