User talk:Billinghurst/Archives/2017

Wikidata link broken

Hi, after recent changes a category has lost its wikidata link and I can't figure out how to fix it. Could you please take a look at Category:Photinia villosa, which should link to various wikipedia pages as specified on item Q11126644. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sminthopsis84: Yeah, there were two wikidata items for the same species, with the gallery interwiki-linked to one, and the category linked to the other. I merged the WD items, though as there can only be one interwiki link, generally the gallery has won the selection battle over the category (there is a community discussion somewhere). I suggest that you look at Category:Wikidata templates and choose which of the templates you wish to decorate the category and apply the link.  — billinghurst sDrewth 22:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Ah. Thanks, seems hokey but it worked. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 06:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sminthopsis84: The battle of opinion/indecision/indifference. Personally I find galleries dick useless, and I would always link to the category, however, the categories often have their separate items (aha, truly!) It will (probably) work itself out sometime in the next 6 to 60 years.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the categories win for me too. I can see why people want to make up galleries of species, because the categories can accumulate mis-identified photos, but in practice I find them useless and generally thoroughly out-of-date. The categories are likely to contain some really useful items. The wikidata interface seems rather shaky to require templates sometimes to be added to pages. Thanks for showing me what to do. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 05:07, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

@Sminthopsis84: that user:jheald now has a sidebar javascript to help identify bits; and I have just dropped a mildly provocative message on his talk page about whether it is time to auto-add templates to galleries and categories, rather than rely on Joe Public to do so. It should be reasonably easy to create similar scripts to add templates from the sidebar. We just need a little impetus to do so; or do some bigger shaking to say "FORGET GALLERIES!", though it is more likely that they will die a natural death of neglect and attrition.  — billinghurst sDrewth 05:18, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

I am glad that you are dealing with this, and will continue more cheerfully doing what I can to clean up galleries and use them from wikipedia. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:25, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Mess with Airplane categories

Hi! I wonder what happened with the categories about airplanes you deleted. There are still files/sub-categories in them, and the new category hasn't been created. See Category:Boeing_737-400_(Lufthansa_Passage) for instance. Generally it's better to leave the CommonsDelinker do the job. Can you restore them all, so that the move can be regualrly done? thank you. --Ruthven (msg) 15:39, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind, I undeleted the categories. When you see "(0 entries moved, 0 to go) ✓" in CommonsDelinker, never delete the old category without checking: it is a parser error and the category isn't empty generally. --Ruthven (msg) 21:10, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

File:American Bank of St Paul v Lou Pearlman.pdf

File:American Bank of St Paul v Lou Pearlman.pdf has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Jcb (talk) 12:38, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

File:Virus Counter 3100.png

FYI, this was just re-uploaded by a different user. I deleted it again and will salt the file name if it occurs for a third time. Regards, De728631 (talk) 18:49, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

File:File:Blason Antoine de Bourgogne (1421-1504) le Grand Bâtard.svg

Are you sure, it does not make sense to reupload a version with same pixels and bigger size--Oursana (talk) 13:30, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

@Oursana: I didn't reupload, I reverted to the previous version of the image as the colours, etc. are different. It should not have been overwritten in the first place.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:35, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

for me the colors are the same and then we only need the smaller version. If you are sure about the difference, than it's ok--Oursana (talk) 13:44, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Art from Sri Chinmoy

Hi Billinghurst, did you see my question on Commons talk:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Art from Sri Chinmoy? I cannot follow your decision as I am not able to find any of those paintings on a website with CC license. --тнояsтеn ⇔ 07:35, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Umm, don't remember. Let me get back to you ... currently less available time.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:43, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Logo Karrierewerkstatt JPG.jpg

Hey Billinghurst, thanks for your activity and sorry for bother your again in this case. What do you mean of an undelete, as I mean this image is an very good example to compare the JPG and PNG format!? Regards -- User: Perhelion 20:53, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Not sure to what you are referring. Undeletes are requested at Commons:Undeletion requests and I cannot see anything about comparisons in respect of this file.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:41, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

The first step should be always to ask the involving admin first, so I'll go the next step. Thanks anyway. -- User: Perhelion 21:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, though I need to understand what it is we are discussing, at the moment I have no clarity to what you are meaning or wanting.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:02, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

File:My Muhammad.png

Please restore this file. You have even Je suis Charlie on your userpage, yet you surrender yourself. I contributed this file, it does not have any copyright problems. It is not a conflict of interests because I do not use my real name on wikipedia.--Broter (talk) 08:31, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

@Broter: Please make your argument based on scope, please do not try some politicial argument. It was not deleted for copyright reasons, solely scope.  — billinghurst sDrewth 11:12, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Photo by Sharon Mollerus of Jim Hodges piece called and still this, 2005-2008.jpg

Hello, I am fairly new to the Wikipedia editing and uploading system so I'm not sure if this is the right discussion page for undeletion requests. For the image File:Photo by Sharon Mollerus of Jim Hodges peice called and still this, 2005-2008.jpg , I was wondering why you deleted the image. I have checked the image using Creative Commons search, the free license agreement and the Wikipedia policies of uploading the image so I was certain that I could use the image for my article. However, I am curious as to why the image was deleted soon after I had uploaded it. Hope to hear back soon, Ciramya (talk) 04:04, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

@Ciramya: I deleted the image due to the subject's copyright, not the photographer's. While a photographer can take a photograph and make that available with a free licence, if the subject of the photograph is a work of art that has its own and existing copyright, then that is a breach of copyright of the original art work. As such the photographer would seem to be incorrect to apply a creative commons licence. For that photograph we would need two permissions, one for the art work, and one for the photograph.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:25, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Oh! Thank you for the clarity! I hadn't thought about the layer of copyrights that was present in a photograph. I will be more careful next time I upload. Ciramya (talk) 04:07, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

@Ciramya: Not an issue, we all learn, we all have images nominated for deletion, it is part of the evolving process and our individual growth. Personally, I still fail to wrap my head around panorama stuff!

I had thought that the nomination process had said enough, though evidently it didn't have the required clarity. I will endeavour to also review a closing summary to remove such ambiguity. Thanks for asking and good luck with your next upload.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:19, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

File:Pittsburgh-HD-Radio-Emergency-Alert-System-Test.ogv

This File is NOT a violation of someone else's copyright due to the original file being on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyOMqqNDAZk which is MY YouTube channel Bbabybear02. I wanted to share it here to show that some HD Radios have EAS options. Everything shown in the video is what I made. Bbabybear02 (talk) 19:28, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

@Bbabybear02: I nominated it only after checking the license at YouTube, which was not a free license. If you change your licensing, you can request an undeletion.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:13, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

The license has been changed on Youtube to Creative Commons - Attribution meaning I have given Wikipedia permission to use my video. I am requesting an undeletion. Bbabybear02

@Bbabybear02: Commons:Undeletion requests  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:28, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

File source is not properly indicated: File:Yusuf ali.jpg

This media was probably deleted.

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Kelly (talk) 18:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

File:Bible (Douay Rheims NT, 1582).djvu

File:Bible (Douay Rheims NT, 1582).djvu has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Yann (talk) 14:49, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Merging File:VanEyck-PortraitGoldsmith.jpg

Hi billinghurst, please merge just the other way, as i questioned, as the other is smaller with same pixels and there I made the final artwork--Oursana (talk) 08:13, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

The practice has been where images are the same dimensions to keep the larger-sized file due its compression being less.  — billinghurst sDrewth 08:33, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

where is that stated, by same pixels there can not be compression, the bigger size is due to other information. I can show you cases, where you kept the smaller file, which is standard commons--Oursana (talk) 08:42, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

Revision of File:ALucas Cranach the Elder - A Faun and his Family with a slain Lion - Google Art Project.jpg--Oursana (talk) 16:41, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

You will excuse me if I don't recall the exact decision-making process of the time. All I can suggest there is that I went with your request to delete your (contemporary) recent upload. You will see in the archives of this talk page how I have for the past seven years applied the criteria for which duplicate has got deleted, and there are a variety of hierarchical criteria that one can apply. I didn't see it the way that you did, and within the limitation of the available tools, that was the way that I went. I don't see it as a significant issue. Re to where are the instructions ... Commons:Deletion_policy#Duplicates and the previous renditions, which have shortened to now say etc.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:19, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Templates

Hi, I have undone a series of your fixes, e.g. here, because these templates were actually broken by your edit. Jcb (talk) 22:22, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. AWB's preview clearly wasn't showing me something then. That whole series of uploads is problematic for their implementation of creator and category. Such is life.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:46, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Rotation of the image

Hello Billinghurst, first of all I'm sorry for my not very good English. I made on December 15, 2012 an upload in the Commons of an illustration from the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica for the article "Architecture". On July 12, 2017, the User:Parsifall requested a rotation of the image by 90° and this was done. I do not agree with the rotation because now the image on en.wikisource.org is no longer a faithful reproduction of the Encyclopaedia. Compare the original with the change. Could you help me please reverse this? Kind regards. --Clarice Reis (talk) 22:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

@Clarice Reis:  Done  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:38, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the prompt reply.--Clarice Reis (talk) 12:12, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Billinghurst/Archives. You have new messages at Rodhullandemu's talk page. You may remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hi, you reverted to the previous version of the River Rhône without any comment. Can I assume that when release is obtained from the publisher regarding my texts in the book, it will be possible to reinstate the useful paragraph? Alternatively, I could rewrite that paragraph, making it shorter, but still referencing the source. Thank you for your advice. I reported earlier on my e-mail regarding licensing of my maps as Commons.David-waterways (talk) 18:29, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Blocking users

Hi Billinghurst, i guess it was you blocking me and deleting the new content on Stefano Boeri's page. I would be nice to discuss this first and not get blocked. What do you expect? Should i block you now?

Have a good day Elstefanio — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elstefanio (talk • contribs) 12:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I haven't blocked you anywhere. I did undo your edit.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:13, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Links

@Billinghurst:

Hello Billinghurst,

First please excuse my bad english.

In some entries - from my point of view - I have inserted interesting links for collectors that are directly related to the topic.

The links point to a collector's page without any commercial interest. All devices shown are unsaleable.

Since the collection for the areas Cine NIC, CINEXIN, and DUX cinema is the most complete on the net, I find it very unfortunate that I can not provide this link.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Zoetrop (talk • contribs) 07:54, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I do not understand why you've undone all links, not least because the existing links offer similar content.

I just saw that you classified the links as "xwiki link spam".

Can you please explain to me how this classification has come about?

Thanks in advance. --Zoetrop (talk) 07:47, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

We are building encyclopaedia with quality references, not building directories of links. This is best explained at a page like w:en:Wikipedia:External links or w:de:Wikipedia:Weblinks. When someone appears and for their first ten edits adds links to the same site in ways that is just linking externally, and not adding to the subject matter, then it is link spam as it adds little to no value to the encyclopaedia. It also smells of linking to one's own website as a w:en:Wikipedia:Conflict of interest.  — billinghurst sDrewth 09:01, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the fast answer.

Too bad for the collector, but ok....

Thank you for your work and your commitment to Wikipedia --Zoetrop (talk) 11:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

... and in that you demonstate you are missing the point. We are not trying to be the site for a collector, we are trying to be an encyclopaedia.  — billinghurst sDrewth 13:45, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

File:Jewellery of Khenmet (Dynasty 12).jpg

Dear Billinghurst,

If you could consider marking this image that I just got freely licensed from Mr. Hans Ollermann. I will be grateful to you. Its a priceless piece of jewellery. Have a good day, --Leoboudv (talk) 02:49, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

• Thank you very much for your help. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 03:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Commons Conference project

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Creator:Jean-Victor Schnetz

Hi Billinghurst, sorry to trouble you, but can you take a look at the creator template of Jean-Victor Schnetz to replace the image by File:VictorSchnetz1867.png? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

@Lotje: As I said at Wikidata, you should be able to update it there. Click the wikidata icon on the template to take yourself to the page, and then edit the image line.  — billinghurst sDrewth 17:43, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

youtu.be/QxJFIfkOQLY

Hi, Is there a way to for the spam blacklist to temporarily exempt this? If so, i'll go in and replace it with an actual full length Youtube url. Artix Kreiger (talk) 22:37, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

 Done temporarily, though it is not my preferred methodology to whitelist to upload. We need to get the tools fixed.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:03, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: those filenames are pretty crap, aren't we able to proffer better descriptive filenames as part of the upload? Moving them afterwards is less than ideal.  — billinghurst sDrewth 04:59, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Gif animated

Hi You deleted all my animated gifs because you think there is a copyright problem. On archive.org, theses movies are on Public Domain. https://archive.org/details/doa_1949 https://archive.org/details/Plan_9_from_Outer_Space_1959 https://archive.org/details/JailBait

Can you undelete all my works. Best Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betty Monde (talk • contribs) 18:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

@Betty Monde: That something is are uploaded to archive.org does not necessarily demonstrate that an image is in the public domain and able to be uploaded to Commons. Files uploaded to Commons need to be demonstrated that they are in the public domain, and they need to be appropriately licensed. Your files were unsourced, they were claimed as your work, and were inappropriately licensed. I would suggest that you apply at Commons:Undeletion requests stating why the images are in the public domain, the appropriate license that should be applied, and the source to be attributed. As a guide, please review Commons:Copyright tags. In all fairness simply undeleting those images on the evidence you produced is not sufficient.  — billinghurst sDrewth 02:36, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

File:Rosario Central logo.svg

Hola, la imagen de este archivo era de la wikipedia en ingles, y estando alli pense que tenia licencia libre, pero se ve que estaba equivocado. gracias por el aviso y saludos — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallasyoe (talk • contribs) 15:42, 14 December 2017 (UTC) --Wallasyoe (talk) 15:44, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Did you revert my edit?

My edit on an .ogv file was reverted, but I think that your reversion is unfair, since I hate bad quality video formats. Please, can you reply!!?? Little Jackie (talk) 14:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Not sure, I may have, as you are not specific on the file I cannot be precise with my answer. If you labelled something as duplicate and it wasn't an exact duplicate, eg. a file type was different, then most likely I undid as they are not duplicate according to the policy. If you have some precision to your concern, then please get back to me.  — billinghurst sDrewth 14:50, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Got it! It’s ‘File:480p-Publicidade-wikilivros.ogv’. Thanks for your help! Little Jackie (talk) 02:59, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

@Little Jackie: Thanks, and in looking at it again, you are right, I can act on that as a duplicate.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:52, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Spambots on Wikimedia Commons

Are you aware of these South-Korean spambots that operate here on Wikimedia Commons? I thought that I would notify you about them in case you haven’t come across them. I didn’t ping you as I wouldn’t consider this urgent as -revi is already working on it, but maybe they also operate on other Wikimedia projects.

Sent from my Microsoft Lumia 950 XL with Microsoft Windows 10 Mobile 📱. --Donald Trung (Talk 💬) ("The Chinese Coin Troll" 👿) (Articles 📚) 10:10, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

-revi is an experienced admin, knows how to escalate for xwiki as necessary, where to find stewards, and where I am if my assistance is of value, and they definitely speak better Korean to my none.  — billinghurst sDrewth 21:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your trust on me, — regards, Revi 07:47, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

@Donald Trung: That page is just a companion page of my LTA tracking list. Maybe I should move it to Meta, but this spammer hits Commons more than any other wiki I've encountered, so it's on Commons. It's basically an informative logging for myself and to type less when I go to Meta, I don't expect other admins to act upon it, you know... Characters in the language you don't understand is really hard to differentiate. — regards, Revi 07:47, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

Merry (summer) Christmas! Artix Kreiger (talk) 00:05, 25 December 2017 (UTC)