Commons:Deletion requests/Planet osiris

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Planet osiris

Image:Transiting planet HD 209458b.png and Image:Osirisplanet.jpg. Both are tagged with NASA/ESA template which is meant for Hubble-images. These are not Hubble-images. The first one is also tagged with a NASA-template ("because it was created by NASA") although image credit is given to European Space Agency, Alfred Vidal-Madjar (Institut d'Astrophysique de Paris, CNRS, France) and NASA. [1] Besides, Alfred Vidal-Madjar is not the artist but an astronomer. Samulili 12:46, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I think we should investigate this, but this should indeed probably get deleted, unfortunately. I've sent an email to Alfred Vidal-Madjar.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

See the bottom of the source page for the image here where it cleary says at the bottom - "copyrigt free". --Markie 13:58, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but that is for Hubble images, if you click "additional info" you'll see it is explained here. The mail to Alfred bounced.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 15:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I received a mail from ESA's press attaché, rather vague:

Hi

Feel free to use this image. Please use credit: ESA/Hubble.

== Licensing ==

{{PD-Hubble}}

Cheers

Lars

Have asked for clarification. Please wait before deleting until this is clarified.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 19:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Apparently they want to release all rights but this may require attribution... I've sent another mail and expecting a reply soon.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 20:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Lars Lindberg Christensen (MSc) • PIO/Head of Communication ESA/Hubble said:

It can be credited to ESA's Hubble group (credit: ESA/Hubble) ... Yes it is released in the public domain.

I am not sure how you define "public domain" (is there an "official" definition somewhere?), but here are our requirements: http://www.spacetelescope.org/copyright.html So, yes we require users to credit the image. But only that. Which is not much to ask ...

Would this be sufficient to keep the image? I'll forward the emails to OTRS unless anyone cares to object any further...--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 08:15, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Hubble images are ok, see the license plate here and "The Hubble material you see on these pages is copyright-free and may be reproduced without fee, on the following conditions..." However, these images are not Hubble images. Besides, that page is written by someone who doesn't understand copyright - you can't set conditions on something that is copyright-free... I don't know, it's a mess. Samulili 13:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

They simply want to release all the images on their site under the same conditions as the Hubble licence. He might no be aware of the copyright requirements for inclusion on Commons: but it is clear to me that this image can be allowed on Commons. We could use {{copyrighted free use provided that}}. If you intend to contact one of ESA's lawyers feel free to send more emails, but I'd like to close it here.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

• It's again here. The short answer for these images seems to be They're in the public domain, usually, but sometimes they require attribution. If Commons can't accept an attribution license, can the image be moved back down to en.Wikipedia (and whereever else it's used?). Thanks 128.100.88.22 13:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

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Kept: not public domain, just needs attribution. Suitable for Commons. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 10:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)