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This deletion discussion is now closed. Please do not make any edits to this archive. You can read the deletion policy or ask a question at the Village pump. If the circumstances surrounding this file have changed in a notable manner, you may re-nominate this file or ask for it to be undeleted.
Certainly not a work of the US government, but of an German photographer. As copyright expires only 70 years pma, this photo is almost certainly still protected. h-stt !? 21:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Keep and change the license to {{PD-US}}, seized enemy property. Or to {{PD-because}} on the grounds that NARA says it is unrestricted. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 21:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Commons doesn't allow that, unfortunately. The English Wikipedia does, however. -Nard the Bard 22:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- As famous as this photo is though I don't think anybody's ever claimed ownership though, so it may qualify as an anonymous work. -Nard the Bard 22:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe. But it's credited as an AP photo by Spiegel.de... does anyone have access to the AP catalog and could check what they say about the author? Lupo 11:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Getty says only "Fox Photos/Stringer", i.e., they don't know the photographer. Corbis doesn't mention a photographer either. Lupo 11:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- And the German Historical Museum doesn't give an author name either. Lupo 12:03, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like the same picture as this one in en:Völkischer Beobachter; Archiv der Sozialen Demokratie seems to claim copyright; seized Nazi property. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- "Seized Nazi property" doesn't matter at all. That might make the image PD in the U.S. or in the UK, but not in its source country, which is presumably Germany. Interesting though that this 1933 publication of the image also doesn't appear to mention the photographer's name under the image. Lupo 12:42, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Even more interesting is that the Bundesarchiv (German Federal Archive) has released a copy of the very same image as {{Cc-by-sa-3.0-de}}, whithout stating any author. They seem to have gotten that image through "inheriting" the ADN/Zentralbild (GDR agencies) images... Lupo 15:42, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
- "Seized Nazi property" doesn't matter at all. That might make the image PD in the U.S. or in the UK, but not in its source country, which is presumably Germany. Interesting though that this 1933 publication of the image also doesn't appear to mention the photographer's name under the image. Lupo 12:42, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- It looks like the same picture as this one in en:Völkischer Beobachter; Archiv der Sozialen Demokratie seems to claim copyright; seized Nazi property. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 12:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe. But it's credited as an AP photo by Spiegel.de... does anyone have access to the AP catalog and could check what they say about the author? Lupo 11:49, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
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- Nice find, Lupo: ADN acquired the archive by en:August Scherl, de:August Scherl and all rights on the images, and the German Federal Archive "inhereted" the GDR state run ADN-archive in 1990. Pretty much all pre-1949 images in the GFA image batch are from the Scherl archive, so we can assume that this one is as well. Do you believe we can close the deletion request then? I am happy to have this image under a true free license now. --h-stt !? 09:07, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Kept. Retagged as {{Cc-by-sa-3.0-de}}. Lupo 10:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
