Commons:Deletion requests/Files of User:Westbrabander
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Files of User:Westbrabander
[edit]All explanation are translated from dutch by me, the original answers by User:Westbrabander are to find here.
Number | Picture | Explanation |
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1. | own work | |
2. | own work | |
3. | own work | |
4. | own work | |
5. | Watercolor, own work | |
6. | own work | |
7. | own work | |
8. | own work | |
9. | own work | |
10. | 100px | own work |
11. | T. Weezenbeek, friend, released | |
12. | 100px | Picture made by friend during guided toer, free to use |
13. | 100px | Picture made by friend during guided toer, free to use |
14. | familypicture currently posested by my broterh-in-law, K. Vermeulen. | |
15. | picture under: google earth | |
16. | picture by my wife | |
17. | made with Paint Shop Pro from old map File:Steenbergen (Atlas van Loon).jpg | |
18. | Made with little plain from my brother, picture is cropped, original had parts of te window on it. | |
19. | edited from above | |
20. | Watercolor old map blaeu | |
21. | Pictures by A. van Oudheusden, friend, released | |
22. | A. van Oudheusden | |
23. | Flickr | |
24. | plaatsengids.nl | |
25. | 100px | plaatsengids.nl |
26. | 100px | plaatsengids.nl |
27. | T. Weezenbeek | |
28. | 100px | Flickr (is allready deleted but added here for consequent numbering) |
29. | A. van Oudheusden | |
30. | A. van Oudheusden | |
31. | Wife of T. Weezenbeek | |
32. | T. Weezenbeek |
At first sorry for my English, it's not the best but I hope good enough.
Begin this month I started getting doubts about whether User:Westbrabander his pictures are really own work. So I started searching them on the internet, and found out that some of them where copyright violations. I asked Westbrabander for an explanation how his pictures where made on his talkpage on the dutch Wikipedia (see here). He gave the explanations a few days later on my talkpage (see here) After his explanations I told him which explanations I didn't believe, and showed the other places on the web where his pictures could be found. In the discussion afterwards he agreed that he lied about some of the pictures, and that some should be deleted because they where not his own work. I haven't found proof for all of his pictures to be a copyright violation, only a big percentage I have found proof for. But because of this high percentage I believe this users claims are all not to trust. On the dutch Wikipedia he has a history of making false source claims. Because of this I nominated all his pictures for deletion. Now I'll state why the individual pictures are copyright violations:
- 10. found on this site (search for "graf")
- 12. found on this site (search for "Café Hoek Markt – Westdam")
- 13. found on this site (search for "Grote Kerkstraat/Blauwstraat" (2nd picture on that search))
- 14. Allready nominated here. User claims that this is a picture of his wifes grandfather, but in fact it's a cropped postcard.
- 15. Google maps, see explanation.
- 18 and 19 from this site Including the black bording, which is later edited away by User Westbrander, and uploaded again.
- 23 User says he found it on Flickr, the other picture he took from Flickr (picture 28) shows that he didn't watch which license the picutres have.
- 24, 25 and 26 found here. In the pictures you clearly see Copyright marks. User westbrabander cropped these out when placing them on commons. A pretty clear and deliberately lie.
- 30 found here. Probably picture 29 can be found on this site as well with a better search.
- 11, 16, 21, 27,29, 31 and 32 are missing OTRS as Westbrabander stated they where not own work, but work of people he knows. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 12:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
- For all the other pictures I have strong doubts. I think most, or all, of them are not own work.
Mvg, Basvb (talk) 10:56, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- These aren't all pictures made by User:Westbrabander, He also has uploaded several clearly old pictures, or computer-made images. The older images he also claimed "own work" althought these are in the public domain because of their age (and it's impossible he created them). example 1, example 2, example 3, example 4 Mvg, Basvb (talk) 11:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- Earlier nominations of User:Westbrabanders pictures are to be found here: kept, kept, requests/File:Steenbergen vroege.jpg kept, deleted (from same site as nr. 10, 12 and 13 above.) Mvg, Basvb (talk) 11:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep the ones that are still claimed as own work; I tagged the ones that Basvb had found elsewhere as copyviolations, and those have now been speedily deleted; Delete also those ascribed by uploader to various friends or other sites, as there is no evidence of permission. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
3 more nominations
[edit]- File:Historische foto Volharding Steenbergen.jpg
- File:Kielen Strienestad.jpg
- File:NieuweGemeentehuisSteenbergen.jpg
- Doubts about these 3 as well. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 11:17, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep the 1895 photo. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe User:Westbrabander is the same as User:Steenbergen.
- File:Doornedijkje.JPG is uploaded by Westbrabander, the picture was taken at "1 jan 2003 00:17" with an "FinePix S3000". User:Steenbergen uploaded File:Kaaistraat.JPG taken at "1 jan 2003 00:25" with an "FinePix S3000" (in the same city within a few minutes walk). More pictures that day by User:Steenbergen, with that camera File:Oude stadhuis Steenbergen.JPG, File:Steenbergse haven zijkant.JPG, File:Steenbergse haven voorkant.JPG, File:Flemish barn.JPG and File:Visserstraat.JPG
- Both users work in the surrounding of the dutch city en:Steenbergen (not really strong evidence)
- Both users pictured at 5 may 2008 in Steenbergen File:Vermeulenhuis.jpg, File:Krommeweg.jpg and File:Watertorenweg.jpg from User Westbrabander. File:WatertorenSteenbergen.jpg, File:SteenbergseHaven.jpg, File:ProtestantseKerkSteenbergen.jpg, File:SteenbergenOorlogsmonument.jpg, File:GummaruskerkSteenbergen.jpg and File:BustationSteenbergen.jpg bu User Steenbergen. Weird is that these 6 pictures by User:Steenbergen have a date stamp, his other pictures that day: File:SteenbergenBord.jpg, File:OudeGemeentehuisSteenbergen.jpg, File:PropellerSteenbergen.jpg, File:SteenbergenNoordwal.jpg, File:StadsparkSteenbergen.jpg and File:DeOverkant.jpg don't have a date stamp.
- File:Marktbijgesneden.jpg from User:Steenbergen is a copyright violation from this site (search for "Gummaruskerk). The same site as where User:Westbrabander took his pictures nr. 10, 12 and 13 from (as well as the allready deleted file "Klokkenstoel")
- User:Steenbergen also uploaded a old picture File:Verwoeste kerk.jpg as own work. This picture made in 1944 is as well a copyright violation.
- File:Braadworst.jpg this picture from User:Steenbergen is weird as well, 2 totally different sausages. I believe they are just taken from other sites. (original version copyright violation.
- User:Westbrabander said on the Dutch Wikipedia that he doesn't know anything about User:Steenbergen on commons, and that it is not his account. (he was asked this for 1 account on Commons, and 2 on Wikipedia-nl). (see here (Dutch))
- File:NieuweGemeentehuisSteenbergen.jpg. The original is from User Steenbergen, the new version from User Westbrabander
- Keep may very well be the same person, but that is no reason to delete. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:19, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Nomination pictures from User:Steenbergen
[edit]As shown above I believe User:Steenbergen is the same as User:Westbrabander. For one of the pictures from User:Steenbergen I have proof that it's a copyright violation. For two of them I am pretty sure they are. The other pictures I doubt about because I think it's no longer possible to trust this users claims. The picture from 5 may 2008 are strange, their are with and without date stamp, this indicates at least 2 different cameras? As well as one of the pictures (between the rest) is a proven copyright violation. Besides that I think it's better to now in one time just review everything.
- File:Braadworst.jpg - (original version copyright violation. I doubt that user first takes a picture somewhere from the web and than takes an own picture, I believe the current version is found somewhere on the web as well.
- File:Witte Kerk Straat Nacht.jpg
- File:Verwoeste kerk.jpg - Made in 1944, doubt user is that old when his wifes grandfather made a picture around 1910.
- File:Gummaruskerk.jpg
- File:Kaaistraat.JPG
- File:Oude stadhuis Steenbergen.JPG
- File:Visserstraat.JPG
- File:Steenbergse haven voorkant.JPG
- File:Steenbergse haven zijkant.JPG
- File:Flemish barn.JPG
- File:Steenbergenschematisch.png
- File:Marktbijgesneden.jpg - from this site (search for "Gummaruskerk). The same site as where User:Westbrabander took his pictures nr. 10, 12 and 13 from (as well as the allready deleted file "Klokkenstoel")
- File:GummaruskerkSteenbergen.jpg
- File:DeOverkant.jpg
- File:SteenbergenOorlogsmonument.jpg
- File:StadsparkSteenbergen.jpg
- File:PropellerSteenbergen.jpg
- File:SteenbergenBord.jpg
- File:SteenbergenNoordwal.jpg
- File:OudeGemeentehuisSteenbergen.jpg
- File:BustationSteenbergen.jpg
- File:SteenbergseHaven.jpg
- File:WatertorenSteenbergen.jpg
- File:ProtestantseKerkSteenbergen.jpg
- Keep except for the 1944 photo; a few other I had tagged as copyvio with the links given by Basvb, those have already been deleted. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:26, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
The actions from this user on the Dutch Wikipedia strongly point to this account being an early account from nl:User:Westbrabander. This user uploaded 16 pictures on the Dutch Wikipedia. Of which 4 have been deleted allready and 12 are currently on Wikimedia Commons (two renamed since). Some of these are copyright violations as well, for 2 I have a strong reason. The other 9 I nominate because of my believe that this user is not to be trusted, and those will probably as well be copyright violations, maybe they can be found after a good search on the web. (these pictures are found with this (only visible for moderators on the Dutch Wikipedia).
- File:Nieuwegemeentehuis steenbergen.png
- File:Hervormde-kerk Steenbergen.jpg - found here - copyright violation
- File:SteenbergenMiddeleeuwen.jpg
- File:Gemeentehuis.png - Source: "Pentekening gemaakt door lokale kunstenaar" translates to picture made by local artist.
- File:Pietenband.jpg
- File:Limburgs isolglossen.png
- File:Carnavalsdweilband.jpg
- File:Carnavalswagen.jpg
- File:Carnaval2007.jpg
- File:Prins-Strienestad.jpg
- File:Musverbranding.jpg
- File:Steenbergen-vesting-animatie.gif - Probably layer under not own work (also animations with subject Steenbergen, which points to this being an account of User:Westbrabander)
- The source of the layer was already present at the image description page at the moment of nomination. Jcb (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- The 4 deleted pictures on nl-wiki: no info, no info, logo from local band, satelite picture
- It might be that File:Jan Oorlog.png is also a part of this. nl:user:Steenbergenaar is believed to be an earlier account from nl:User:westbrabander as well. But as this is only 1 picture and I haven't found proof it's not possible to say this for sure. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 13:07, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep also the church claimed to be a copyvio - the linked site gives this church in lower resolution; I had tagged the drawing as a copyvio, and it has been speedied. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 10:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- As far as I could see, the picture at the linked site has the same resolution. Jcb (talk) 15:38, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Additions
[edit]- I have just identified the file File:NieuweGemeentehuisSteenbergen.jpg as being identical als the picture on Steenbergen in Beeld (look for "Het nieuwe gemeentehuis – Buiten de Veste 1"). - Eddylandzaat
- The same for File:Hoek blauwstraat.jpg, look for "Hoekwoning/winkel Markt - Grote Kerkstraat/Blauwstraat, maar nu op 31 maart 2009 " - Eddylandzaat
- @Eddylandzaat The 2nd one I had allready found, see above. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 13:20, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
- File nr. 11 is identified as 'Jaarmarkt Steenbergen'. However, the 'Ristorante Amore Mio' (see picture) is in Bergen op Zoom, see here. Glatisant (talk) 15:01, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is a picture of Steenbergen. There is also a restaurant "Amore Mio" in Steenbergen (as can be easily checked), and in Google Streetview one can check that this picture is indeed the Grote Kerkstraat in Steenbergen: [1]. Pbech (talk) 18:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Kept. most - Deleted. some - I'm not convinced that the user only uploaded copyvio, please provide individual indication - Jcb (talk) 15:47, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
- This is absurd, a user who uploaded like 20-40% copyvio's is not to be trusted, it's impossible to find the proof provided for each individual image. If this is how structural copyvio uploaders are treated then I think the only conclusion can be that 5-10% of commons exists out of copyvio. At least I wont put any more effort in this nonsense then, and will just keep my commons use to uploading my images if I need them for articles. Mvg, Basvb (talk) 16:45, 25 January 2011 (UTC)