Commons:Deletion requests/File:Nicole Luisoni (52524729432).jpg

File:Nicole Luisoni (52524729432).jpg

The person in the photo is no longer a model and wants to delete all trace of such role, as it is impacting her personal life. Anyulrivas (talk) 12:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

 Keep First, the photographer and flickr user licensed this photos as CC-BY 2.0 (the "authorisation of the photographer"), attested by flickreview, so, no, this photos are freely licensed, as CC licenses are irrevocable, and so the photographer can stop distributing them, but cannot stop others, that have used them under that license, from keep them in "public domain" (not public domain by CC but the argument stands). This photos were made in a nude photography workshop in Barcelona ("Taller de fotografía de desnudo, Barcelona" in spanish), made with a nude photography model, as per this context. Second, this is a case of a model posing, willingly to a workshop of nude photography, not of some sneaky photographer. Also, keep before per Commons:Deletion_requests/Archive/2023/06/19#Files_in_Category:Nicole_Luisoni. As i already said in Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Nicole Luisoni, if it is having such an impact on a model life, then, maybe, the original photographer shouldnt have slapped the name and (possibly other data) about the model, in the first place. Yet, if it is really having an impact, that could be easily solved by changing the filenames of this model photos to something non personal, albeit keeping that info that this photos were taking by a boudoir photographer (the name of the photographer? and were taking during a nude photography workshop in Barcelona ("Taller de fotografía de desnudo, Barcelona" in spanish). Tm (talk) 12:58, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

 Delete all of Category:Nicole Luisoni and its content. Wikidata too.

It seems credible that the model here has retired and they are trying to remove their footprint of images. Yes, the licensing here is irrevocable and so Commons is entitled to continue to host these. However that is not the same as Commons being required to host them. Nor is it part of Commons' role to be needlessly vindictive to any model.

Removing these entirely from the web is unlikely to be successful and certainly not easy. But it's not our job to make it any harder. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:20, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

A better solution, as the deletion requester as already agreed with above, given that the CC licenses are irrevocable and this files were all kept previously per Commons:Deletion_requests/Archive/2023/06/19#Files_in_Category:Nicole_Luisoni, as i said above, if it is really having an impact, could be easily solved by changing the filenames of this model photos to something non personal, albeit keeping that info that this photos were taking by a boudoir photographer (the name of the photographer? and were taking during a nude photography workshop in Barcelona ("Taller de fotografía de desnudo, Barcelona" in spanish). The category in Commons and renaming to anonymised filenames can be processed easily but the Wikidata item would need a separate, on Wikidata, process. Tm (talk) 17:19, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

I see no way in which that would be 'better'. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Per the comments of the user (that says to be the photographer and ergo the copyright holder" that opened this same deletion request, in Commons:Deletion requests/Category:Nicole Luisoni where he said "Thank you for your consideration. I'll modify the filename so the model name no longer appears there. Some models prefer to use an alias, and others prefer to use their real name. This is the first time this happened to me with all the models I worked with so far. I have no problem with keeping the photographer info and the context they were taken.", i.e. the filens can be kept and the filenames changed to anonimized filenames, altough i said that he shouldnt do that, and let others, after the closure do that, specially given that the Wikidata item involves a different and separate process in Wikidata itself, not here. Tm (talk) 01:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

•  Comment I'm somewhat sympathetic to a model who wants to retire, but the fact is, she can retire by stopping working like anyone else. If she had posed nude for paintings, would you call for their destruction or try to tell the artist to rename the compositions? People who model for publication know that the images are forever. Changing the filenames to deemphasize the identity of the model is more than generous. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:47, 8 December 2024 (UTC)