Commons:Deletion requests/File:Clara Sosa on FarangDay.jpg
This file was initially tagged by Paul 012 as Copyvio (copyvio) and the most recent rationale was: Per Commons:Deletion requests/Files found with bugaboo.tv GRuban (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- (I want to question that speedy deletion tag, so, per instructions, am reopening this as a deletion request; my opinion is Keep; I'm the uploader.) Now I'm looking at that DR, and it says
"Although videos by Bugaboo.TV are licensed under {{YouTube CC-BY}}, they are generally coupled with restrictions that contradict that license, like the scrolling text in this video that reads: "Do not re-upload to any site, This video clip is the copyright of Bugaboo.TV". These restrictions are also found in the video descriptions, like in this video that specifically state: "*** DO NOT Reupload ***"."
Well, this video doesn't have any of those restrictions, neither in the video itself nor in the video descriptions. In fact, the video description here specifically says: "License Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)" - IN ADDITION to the YouTube Creative Commons Attribution license tag. Just because Bugaboo.TV doesn't want to release some of its videos is not a reason to delete the ones it undisputably does want to release, like this one. --GRuban (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: I understand that the original discussion covered all files from Boogaboo.tv's YouTube channel and not only ones that had contradicting info, since the contradiction put in doubt their use of CC licences. The part of the description that says
looks like it was copied from the description of another video, and inadvertently included the automatically generated tags. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:23, 2 January 2021 (UTC)Category
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Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)- Well, first, the original "discussion" wasn't much of a discussion: one person posted, and seven days later the administrator accepted, no intervening actual discussion. The evidence presented was that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtckTKC4E8c had scrolling text saying "Do not re-upload to any site" (which it does, at 0:10), and that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZP67-9AUw has the description text " *** DO NOT Reupload ***", which I agree is contradictory, so confusing. So those particular videos we probably shouldn't upload per COM:PCP. But that doesn't mean we should never upload any other, completely non-contradictory videos or images from Bugaboo.TV. It is perfectly OK for a video creator to say "these videos are under a free license for others to reuse, and these others aren't." We do not require a content creator to license all their images or videos the same way. --GRuban (talk) 15:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's also not the case that all videos by Bugaboo.TV are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZTW1OhLvM is not so licensed. --GRuban (talk) 15:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. I don't currently have an argument against your points, but it'd probably be fair to ping Explicit from the previous discussion and the closing admin Fitindia to see what they think. --Paul_012 (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- It's also not the case that all videos by Bugaboo.TV are licensed under Creative Commons Attribution. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZTW1OhLvM is not so licensed. --GRuban (talk) 15:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
- Well, first, the original "discussion" wasn't much of a discussion: one person posted, and seven days later the administrator accepted, no intervening actual discussion. The evidence presented was that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtckTKC4E8c had scrolling text saying "Do not re-upload to any site" (which it does, at 0:10), and that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZP67-9AUw has the description text " *** DO NOT Reupload ***", which I agree is contradictory, so confusing. So those particular videos we probably shouldn't upload per COM:PCP. But that doesn't mean we should never upload any other, completely non-contradictory videos or images from Bugaboo.TV. It is perfectly OK for a video creator to say "these videos are under a free license for others to reuse, and these others aren't." We do not require a content creator to license all their images or videos the same way. --GRuban (talk) 15:48, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
Kept: Thanks for the link to the other DR. One of those films, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyZP67-9AUw, still mentions "DO NOT REUPLOAD". But for the film in this case the standard Youtube "sort of CC-BY-SA" licence is listed. Therefore this screen capture can be kept. I suppose Boogaboo TV will contact us if they are aware of something they would not want by hindsight. But based on the current situation this image can be kept. --Elly (talk) 09:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
