Commons:Deletion requests/File:1804 Silver Dollar - Class I - Cohen-ANA Specimen.jpg

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This file was initially tagged by RHM22 as Speedy (speedydelete) and the most recent rationale was: This upload presents no evidence that the image itself is public domain. The coin is public domain as a work of the U.S. federal government, but the photograph also needs to be public domain (as a coin is considered a three-dimensional object). According to the description, the image belongs to the American Numismatic Association or Coinfacts.com.. Are the XIX century works copyrighted? Amitie 10g (talk) 21:37, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the coin itself is public domain, both by virtue of its age and the fact that it is a work of the United States federal government. However, the image itself is not public domain. As a coin is a three-dimensional object, anyone taking a scan or photograph generates a new copyright. As such, these images are all copyright violations.-RHM22 (talk) 21:47, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: A scan doesn't give a new copyright. Yann (talk) 22:02, 8 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Actually, these images may not be scans, so may be subject to copyright. Yann (talk) 00:03, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete - Regardless of whether this is a scan or photo, coins are 3D. It seems unlikely that someone would place a raw coin of significant value directly on a scanner bed. The images have no clear origin: they are on one site, with an attribution that they come from a second site and at the same time the ANA Museum. If this image (as is claimed) came from the ANA, it was never originally captured as a scan… no chance.--Godot13 (talk) 04:09, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete regardless of whether they were scanned as copyvios.--Wehwalt (talk) 11:39, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as nominator, per Commons:Currency and Commons:When to use the PD-Art tag#Photograph of an old coin found on the Internet. Images of three dimensional works generate a new copyright. As coins are essentially a small bas relief, they are three-dimensional objects. There is considerable consensus and precedent which states that photos of coins are inherently copyrightable. As a rare coin, these were almost certainly photographed by a professional in a studio set-up. In other words, these were likely taken with thought given as to position, lighting and other concerns. Since neither the photographer nor the manner of photography are known, we can make no assumptions.-RHM22 (talk) 16:16, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • As with the others, and the guidelines/policies linked by RHM22. 3D is 3D, whether or not a scanner is used. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:24, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Deleted, per COM:PRP. Green Giant (talk) 12:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]