Commons:Deletion requests/File:البابا شنودة وتاريخ الكنيسة القبطية الغلاف 1.jpg

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File:البابا شنودة وتاريخ الكنيسة القبطية الغلاف 1.jpg

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Copyrighted book cover (PD tag doesn't appear to apply).    FDMS  4    08:47, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@FDMS4: The book is old What is the problem in the Cover? --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 09:27, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Old? 1991 is the opposite of old in terms of copyright. While the text may be some centuries old, the cover picture doesn't appear to be so.    FDMS  4    10:59, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FDMS4: Everything was produced in 1991:This file is currently in the public domain in Egypt --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 11:36, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to the PD tag you used, Egyptian works with an identifiable author are in the PD in Egypt and the U.S. if the author died prior to 1966 and the author died prior to 1946 or [the work was] published prior to 1923.    FDMS  4    13:52, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@FDMS4: In Egypt, the file be free after 25 years from its creation (See in Wikipedia) and the license must be corrected in all languages --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:11, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
According to the English Wikipedia version of the template this work will enter the PD in Egypt in 2017. However, a PD status in the source country only isn't sufficient for file to be hosted on Commons, and this file certainly isn't in the PD in the U.S.. What exactly did you mean by everything was produced in 1991?    FDMS  4    14:31, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete One correction and an opposing point of view: The date counts from publication, not from creation. The painting shown on the cover is not a work of applied arts but fine arts, the relevant date here is 50 years post mortem auctoris. If the painting is old and the painter died >50 years, than the 25 years term would be relevant for the design of this bookcover. --Martin H. (talk) 14:36, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Martin H.: The author (The Painter) is unknown.if the file will be considered as a work of art, it will be free in 2041.But I see it is not so.It is not a painting --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 14:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
In that case you have to describe a little bit why you think it is a work of applied art, this edit suggests that you know more. It does not look like a simple photography but a painting (or drawing, ... technique doesnt matter) and such works qualify as fine art. --Martin H. (talk) 18:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Martin H.: It's a simple drawing, not a painting --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 06:54, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Then it will be free on January 1 2042. You also uploaded a photo from the book which could have the same problem as a work of literature, unless the text is much older. The description and source information isnt very informative on this matter. --Martin H. (talk) 20:57, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Martin H.: No problem in old books and I do not see a problem in a simple drawing.I see that it is not a work of art --ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 07:32, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The drawing is not a work of applied art, it is an artistic work as defined in egyptian copyright law Article 140,9. And works, even if insignficant (Article 138,1) are protected 50 years post mortem (Article 160). The case is pretty clear. And for Category:Pope Shenouda and the history of Coptic Church you should describe who wrote those old textes. The publcation date suggests that there is a problem, any literary work - and that is almost any text - by Shenouda III or about the papacy of Shenouda III will be in copyright today by simple math and logic. --Martin H. (talk) 13:36, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --INeverCry 23:19, 14 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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